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Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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FYI -

Austin is as blue as they come (and way less of the neoliberalism you see in SV). Houston from what I can tell has become much more liberal too (partly because a large influx of Katrina refugees).

Hot take - with all of the migration to Texas, this state will be blue in the next 10 years.

The only "conservative" things you find in those areas is (1) big trucks (2) guns (3) tobacco (4) sports. Not much different than what you might see in rural CA.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#92
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Cost of living is real. Weather is real. Outside of a few highly nomadic ultra-high net worth types the tax advantages of moving states is just too trivial in absolute terms for most people to bother with. The idea that masses of people are moving for lower taxes seems like a rhetorical invention of the WSJ editorial page versus anything rooted in reality.

CA's income tax is very high. The effective tax rate is 7%+ for most tech workers. That's a huge amount of income to give up, especially if you're comparing to a state with no or low income tax.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#93

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I'd assume that grass was brown and dead. (But no state taxes would be nice.)

The tech job market in Dallas and Houston is pretty hot.

How's the water? One of the main things that scared me out of Texas living is it's too hot and the water is algae tasting.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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They mentioned Houston.

I'm currently living in Houston, working as a SWE, and can attest to the pros of living here. Regarding your concerns, the city is quite demographically diverse from people of all walks of life. Summers do get hot and humid, but nothing unbearable. The winters are more than tolerable (its currently 68 degrees outside) as well.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#95
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We have fires caused by illegal cooking fires at these encampments. Be careful about tossing around this kind of rhetoric. I heard the same story about a fire in my old neighborhood in LA. It turned out that the son of the head of Chamber of Commerce started it trying to firebomb an encampment. https://ktla.com/2019/09/04/suspects-in-eagle-rock-brush-fir...

Please research the facts before posting this. The fires have been caused by people using Propane tanks with attachments to heat their flammable tents.

The Kincade Fire was started by PG&E, but somehow whenever wildfires get mentioned, people immediately point to the homeless...

I only made this comment because it seems to be feeding into exterminationist sentiments among the wealthy and homeowners. As I pointed out, this led to an attack on an encampment in my old neighborhood.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#96
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Having left NYC for Texas 5 years ago, I can confirm the grass is greener on the other side.

Having lived in NYC, SV, London and Chicago, living in Austin has been dream.

That being said, it's pretty clear it's heading towards Seattle levels, which is quickly headed towards SF levels of societal issues.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#97

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> Illinois has high taxes and terrible weather Illinois has a flat income tax; at $135k income you would only be beat by the states that have no income tax (like Florida). Most of the states on that list also have weather that is either terrible in the summer or terrible in the winter, so I doubt that weather is really a factor in people moving.

What about property taxes?

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Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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The heat and humidity are there but Houston and Dallas aren't as conservative as you might imagine. I used to live in Dallas and have a ton of friends in Houston who are liberals or at least centrists. I would say give people a chance to show you their best side. I was in Texas only a couple of years but people there aren't any less kind than people in California. I'm not advocating leaving California but rather if Houston looks good to you, don't let some preconceived notion of what it is stop you from exploring the option farther. Go check it out. It has an AWESOME art district and actually quite a few good restaurants.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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To me its fascinating the growth of state's pop. TX is sucking up people so fast. NY has hardly changed in 70 years. State 1850 1900 1950 2020 NY 3 7 17 19 IL 1 4.8 8.7 13 CA .1 1.5 10.5 39 TX .2 3 8 29 FL .1 0.5 2.7 21

Texas has built housing. NY essentially hasn't.

That's not true. NY more than NYC. NYC has been building housing and the rest of the state has plenty.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

#100
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Having left NYC for Texas 5 years ago, I can confirm the grass is greener on the other side.

Greener, but also regressive and generally playing catch-up to progress. Texas ranks in the bottom half of states on most quality-of-life rankings.

"progress"

Is that why net immigration to Texas is positive?

On what quality of life metrics does Texas rank poorly?

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