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Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by bscphil »

Kipters wrote: post #48
ajross wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... you want a high end laptop? Those are available, even with ChromeOS installed. But they're not any cheaper. Hardware is hardware. When people talk about price being an advantage for Chromebooks, they mean at the low end, where the OS can operate well on hardware that Windows doesn't tolerate, and where the windows license fees become a significant part of the selling price. Try a comparison of devices around $3…

is 500€ (tax included) considered high end? The first result searching for "laptop" with a 8 GB ram filter on Amazon.it is an HP 14s, with an i5-8250U, 8 GB of ram and a 256 GB ssd priced at 599€. The third result is the same but with an AMD A9, for half the price (349€). I would buy any of them with ChromeOS at that price (I'm interested from a developer point of view, especially for the Android subsystem) That's le…

> is 500€ (tax included) considered high end?

These days it's upper middle for the U.S. I would say. For example the new top-of-the-line Dell consumer laptop, the XPS 13, starts at under $1000 (900€). When I got an XPS nearly a decade ago, it was a model they had at a considerable discount (as I recall it was an overstock situation or something) and it still cost me $1350.

As far as I can tell, low-end, mid-end, and high-end laptops are not only more powerful than the laptops of 10 years ago, they're also considerably cheaper at each level. I can't say for ultra-high-end laptops, I'm sure you still can spend $2500 on a laptop if you want, but even the MacBook Pro starts at only $1300 these days.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by reaperducer »

andrewmutz wrote: post #73

I use Chrome OS daily to do my job and I think it is fantastic. IMO it is the ultimate work machine for your average knowledge worker. At my company, all the software that we use is web-based (SaaS), with the exception of software engineers, who are using local tools to develop web based applications. For non-engineers, the OS provides an extremely simple client to use to do their job. The OS is a slightly better web…

I love your pets vs. cattle analogy. I hope I remember that. But I think this is key:

But for a work machine in an enterprise environment, it's fantastic

You're using it as a thin client, and that's great; it works for you. But outside of a controlled environment, ChromeOS becomes less and less useful, especially as connectivity deteriorates or becomes less predictable.

To continue with your analogy — the pets will find their way home. Once the cattle are off the ranch, they're gone.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by 13hours »

netsharc wrote: post #10
abrowne wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they mean it wasn't ready as a product to be sold to the public.

Seems like the author doesn't really know the meaning of that term (or well, is using that term not in the way you and I understand it). That word is even linked to the Wikipedia page, but it says: > This can be a way for an organization to test its products in real-world usage. Hence dogfooding can act as quality control, It smells like the author wanted to use a fancier term for "beta-testing".

He also doesn't seem to know quite what "delusional" means. He uses it to describe people that don't agree with him.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

andrewmutz wrote: post #73

I use Chrome OS daily to do my job and I think it is fantastic. IMO it is the ultimate work machine for your average knowledge worker. At my company, all the software that we use is web-based (SaaS), with the exception of software engineers, who are using local tools to develop web based applications. For non-engineers, the OS provides an extremely simple client to use to do their job. The OS is a slightly better web…

> Yes, it is terrible at things like video editing, games, audio editing, etc. But for a work machine in an enterprise environment, it's fantastic.

Unless it runs Excel, that seems unlikely to apply to the enterprise in general.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by larrik »

jamesfmilne wrote: post #77
ArtWomb wrote: post #64

The counterpoint to this argument is that there are many users who want a super-lightweight OS that is not bloated, but very high performance with long batter life. I use my Samsung Chromebook 3 for gsuite, gcloud management through the web console, linux (beta) shell based development, gcloud cloud shell, putty type chrome terminal and fairly hardcore web app testing (webgl 2.0 compute, magenta, tensorflowjs). It wo…

People are already doing this. Untold Studios in London are running (almost) all their workstations in AWS and the desktops are just Intel NUCs running Teradici. It makes sense when all your assets are also stored in the cloud. Not sure the economics are there for everyone yet, as cloud storage requirements for digital content creation can get very expensive very quickly.

I mean, people have been doing that sort of thing forever. It comes in and out of fashion every few years.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by Medicalidiot »

I've used Chromebooks for 8 years now. Anecdotally what I've noticed is that the sheer amount of bugs has increased dramatically after they started implementing the ability to use Android apps. Right around that time it seemed like Google went from trying to make the best browser based operating system to something else. With new updates things seem to spontaneously break and the amount of effort that went into tracking down bugs diminished.

I'm using a MBP now, instead, partly due to the quality issues and partly because Google's privacy stance has made me more uncomfortable as time goes on.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by dreamcompiler »

The utility of ChromeOS for me is that it enabled the creation of cheap Linux laptops. For $300 plus a 128GB A2-rated SD card, I can boot GalliumOS from the SD card and have a nicely functional Linux development machine with all my important stuff backed up to Dropbox and/or Github. If the laptop gets stolen I don't much care; I just buy another one and reinstall and I haven't lost any data. (I don't use Google's builtin Linux because it's too limited--you cannot boot it from an SD card.)

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Post by elcomet »

inetknght wrote: post #51
eloisant wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the selling point of Chromebooks is that it's a stateless computer, so not much can go wrong. Also updates are really smooth: done in the background, just have to do a quick reboot and you're done. Since I migrated my mother to a Chromebook, she no longer breaks anything and I no longer have to do tech support.

> For me the selling point of Chromebooks is that it's a stateless computer, so not much can go wrong. Do you really think that's the case? > Also updates are really smooth: done in the background, just have to do a quick reboot and you're done. How are there updates if it's stateless?

State here is about user data / apps.

All your data and applications are on the cloud. So if you loose or break your Chromebook, just buy a new one, and all your work is already there.

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