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Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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> New swarming drone technology could help find lost hikers, study wildlife

CU Boulder Today, Sept 16, 2017

https://www.colorado.edu/today/2017/09/06/new-swarming-drone...

Edit: Research and Engineering Center for Unmanned Vehicles (RECVU): https://www.colorado.edu/recuv/

Edit 2: This has been a fun topic to research! Here’s a link to the list of equipment used by the Integrated Remote and In-Situ Sensing (IRISS) team:

https://www.colorado.edu/iriss/content/equipment

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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post #70

It may currently be legal, but this isn't an acceptable long term framework. If you're flying below the regulation ceiling, you should need a line of sight operator and landowner approval. Above that you should need a transponder and rough flight plan – just like regular aviation. At no point should an operation be opaque to local law enforcement.

If there is no property being damaged, no law being violated, why does law enforcement need to be involved at all? Law enforcement doesn't have to have an answer or info about every single event. If I'm driving a car down the highway, law enforcement doesn't need to know where I am going or why. I'm not breaking any laws and not infringing on anyone's rights. As a pilot I can go fly my plane at any altitude I wish as…

If it turns out that this was used to prepare for a terrorist attack then law enforcement would look pretty negligent not having looked into this. I think if you do something on this scale it’s just common courtesy to inform the public what you are doing.

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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post #86

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Requiring people to explain their lawful activity in the name of privacy is something of a contradiction.

How does that scan? Other people’s privacy should supersede your public behavior.

Perhaps I'm wrong to frame it as a privacy issue, but I have a large problem with allowing people to be harassed for lawful actions. If the law says I can do something, and I do it, I shouldn't be required to explain why I did it.

I have no problem with people not wanting drones flying over their properties, and I have no problem with a collective decision that people's privacy should supersede the right to fly drones in public airspace (indeed, I'd probably agree with it). But that should be enforced by a change in law, not by an demand that someone justify their supposedly legal actions.

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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iOS Safari.

I distinctly recall you griping about ads while reading IEEE articles a few days ago[1]. FYSA wasn't able to replicate the reader view issue with uBO on Firefox, both desktop and mobile. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21850005

I gripe about ads a lot. As you can probably tell, I’m not a fan of them.

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there is no property being damaged, no law being violated, why does law enforcement need to be involved at all? Law enforcement doesn't have to have an answer or info about every single event. If I'm driving a car down the highway, law enforcement doesn't need to know where I am going or why. I'm not breaking any laws and not infringing on anyone's rights. As a pilot I can go fly my plane at any altitude I wish as…

> As a pilot I can go fly my plane at any altitude I wish as long as I am not entering any controlled airspace. Well, no. That’s not true. Firstly there are rules about the altitude you can fly at when it’s greater than 3000’, and second you are required to file a flight plan any time you are flying IFR.

That's not for security or some sense of needing to know what someone is doing. It's so that ATC can effectively route and deconflict traffic. If a UAS is ever operating IFR it must do the same.

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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post #33

From the article: He urged people not to try to shoot the drones down, both because their batteries can cause intense fires and also because shooting a drone is a federal crime. “It becomes a self-generating fire that burns until it burns itself out,” he said. “If you shoot a drone down over your house and it lands on your house, you might not have a house in 45 minutes.” So these are really vehicles of arson?

Maybe. In a related note, if you shoot my car until it crashes, it may catch fire and burn everything around it. People probably shouldn't do that either

Re: Drones flying nighttime patterns over NE Colorado leave law enforcement stumped

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there is no property being damaged, no law being violated, why does law enforcement need to be involved at all? Law enforcement doesn't have to have an answer or info about every single event. If I'm driving a car down the highway, law enforcement doesn't need to know where I am going or why. I'm not breaking any laws and not infringing on anyone's rights. As a pilot I can go fly my plane at any altitude I wish as…

> As a pilot I can go fly my plane at any altitude I wish as long as I am not entering any controlled airspace. Well, no. That’s not true. Firstly there are rules about the altitude you can fly at when it’s greater than 3000’, and second you are required to file a flight plan any time you are flying IFR.

It was a general statement that applies to the scenario being discussed in the article.

If you want to get pedantic, you're also required to file a flight plan if there is some restriction in place requiring such for the area you are flying in. For example a TFR, or operation in an ADIZ or SFRA/FRZ(Washington DC). Or if you are flying internationally.

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