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PinePhone Review

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Re: PinePhone Review

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As long as I can run Firefox on it, and it got a micro-SIM, I'm good. There's a web alternative for most apps I use, where besides that I just need a tiny computer in my pocket with constant connection to the internet (hence, micro-SIM). I still wish FirefoxOS would have come to live..

I would love Firefox OS to resurrect...

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post #86

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I see the PinePhone as a Raspberry Pi equivalent in the Smartphone world, there's definitely a big niche for that.

You don’t need your Raspberry PI to run your bank app, handle your payments or your bus-tickets. I’m not sure how I’d even purchase a non digital ticket for quite a few things in Denmark. Don’t get me wrong, I really hope something like PinePhone sees enough adoption to get the apps I need a smartphone to run so I can break away from the two monopolies. I just don’t believe it will happen when Microsoft couldn’t do i…

Microsoft couldn't do it because everyone new (of the users) that even if they put in their effort to switch and wait for the ecosystem to grow, they will end up with just the same crap: another closed-source monopoly with it's own quirks. We won't have just two overlords, but instead 3 of the same. Wow such a difference...

Now an truly open system might make a difference. Not saying it will, it has it's own problems, but comparing it to Windows Phone is not really apples to apples.

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IMO, Librem5 and PinePhone are the most exciting news of this decade w.r.t mobile ecosystem for hackers, tinkerers, enthusiasts. Librem5 stuck to its security, privacy first agenda and managed to build a phone with PC grade hardware. PinePhone stuck to its affordability first agenda, bringing a Linux capable smartphone hardware to the masses. My only wish is that these project become commercially sustainable and attr…

I think Windows Mobile gave up just prior to the best chance of breaking the duopoly: PWAs. Most app developers will never want to support a half a dozen phone OSes. The solution will inevitably, eventually, be the web.

WebAssembly mobile!

Re: PinePhone Review

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post #88

As long as I can run Firefox on it, and it got a micro-SIM, I'm good. There's a web alternative for most apps I use, where besides that I just need a tiny computer in my pocket with constant connection to the internet (hence, micro-SIM). I still wish FirefoxOS would have come to live..

I would love Firefox OS to resurrect...

The Boot 2 Gecko OS was the community-developed successor of FirefoxOS and KaiOS is the commercial proprietary fork of B2G but unfortunately B2G is no longer maintained:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2G_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS

Re: PinePhone Review

#95
post #41

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Openmoko sold 13000 phones, which is much more than "dozens." Commercial failure does not necessarily mean you can fit all the customers in a room.

13k is a rounding error. Apple sells that many iphones every 30 minutes. (I'm not kidding... they sell 217M iPhones a year = 594k a day = 24.9k/hr)

This is about open source phones, of which Apple has sold exactly zero.

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I'm on Tingb(mvno using the T-Mobile networj) and on the West coast. Both zoom and Skype are completely unusable for me.

FWIW, I've been using VOIP for over a year now. I don't make a massive number of calls, but it's perfectly usable over LTE in Western Canada.

Same experience here, using https://voip.ms with Fido.

Re: PinePhone Review

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love Firefox OS to resurrect...

The Boot 2 Gecko OS was the community-developed successor of FirefoxOS and KaiOS is the commercial proprietary fork of B2G but unfortunately B2G is no longer maintained: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2G_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS

At least KaiOS is very successful but it’s weird that it’s proprietary.

Re: PinePhone Review

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post #88

As long as I can run Firefox on it, and it got a micro-SIM, I'm good. There's a web alternative for most apps I use, where besides that I just need a tiny computer in my pocket with constant connection to the internet (hence, micro-SIM). I still wish FirefoxOS would have come to live..

I would love Firefox OS to resurrect...

I just saw people using it when I visited Mozilla, but it looked fantastic then. Not to mention the moral aspect of it.

Re: PinePhone Review

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post #78

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Could you just bypass that and use VOIP?

VOIP over 3g is terrible, and over LTE it's only slightly better. Latency and jitter are both very high, which makes it somewhat hostile to VOIP.

Don't all messaging apps like Viber, Whatsapp, telegram etc technically use VOIP, or at least the same type of technology as VOIP? The quality is quite good, for a lot of people.

Re: PinePhone Review

#100
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the PinePhone as a Raspberry Pi equivalent in the Smartphone world, there's definitely a big niche for that.

You don’t need your Raspberry PI to run your bank app, handle your payments or your bus-tickets. I’m not sure how I’d even purchase a non digital ticket for quite a few things in Denmark. Don’t get me wrong, I really hope something like PinePhone sees enough adoption to get the apps I need a smartphone to run so I can break away from the two monopolies. I just don’t believe it will happen when Microsoft couldn’t do i…

It has its own issues indeed, I don't deny that. But that used to be the same for Ubuntu when the Windows-only culture was at its highest. People who want this phone will use workarounds, custom apps, anbox or just web apps.
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