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Still Why No HTTPS?
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Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#92Because there is only one free certificate provider (lets encrypt) and it does not allow wildcard certificates via server authentification. Having the DNS credentials laying around on the server is not a good idea. So creating wildcard certs via letsencrypt is a huge pain in the ass. If a webmaster has control over somedomain.com I think that is enough to assume he has control over *.somedomain.com. So I think letsen…
I run https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns to solve the wildcard domain problem. You can run it yourself locally, or trust (why?) the upstream's service.
I think you still need a steady hostname pointing to it, right?
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Though I'm on the "encrypt all the things!" camp, let me play devil's advocate for a moment. If I set up a purely static HTTP-only site in 1998, it would still work with today's browsers, more than 20 years later. If I set up a purely static HTTPS-only site in 1998, and didn't follow the upgrade treadmill, it would have stopped working for modern browsers some time ago.
It would still work, just create a warning. For a page that hasn't been updated since 1998 that's ok imo. On the other hand, it needs to be hosted somewhere. Either a vps (which also needs updating) or a web hosting package (which tend to provide auto-renewing certificates). Just because the code is static doesn't mean nothing about the website has changed for 20 years.
Of course, migrating to even a raspberry Pi would be a net performance and perf/watt improvement.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#94I don't get it. With Lets Encrypt, it's like one or two lines to get everything set up. I'm guessing people aren't as lucky as I am to be running on newer machines and such. I mean it even edits your nginx files to redirect http to https if you agree. It's not hard.
My employer won't use Let's Encrypt because they (LE) want unlimited indemnity and that's a deal breaker for them (employer).
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#95Some websites adamantly insist they did not need HTTPS because they are purely static. https://www.troyhunt.com/heres-why-your-static-website-needs... The same website to my surprise has an article on why this is faulty reasoning.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#96Security of the data transfer layer does not mean can or should trust the website you are visiting.
Just because a website has a padlock does not mean it is trust worthy and you can hand over your CC details.
https://www.amazon.somethiing.other.co/greatDiscount may look great to some!
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#97The task is not as simple as using DNS to store strict https flags(as DNS can be manipulated by intermediary), but hardcoding the lists in the browsers and keeping the lists in the chrome's code is definitely not a solution.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#98There is one "good" reason against https: handshakes take enormous amounts of CPU, relatively speaking. It's quite easy tp DoS server by skipping the expensive part on your end. You can load a core with 10~30Mbit@2k rps if your not even optimized. Whereas the same server could tank 40k rps HTTP requests.
The only place I've had to care about this was on an embedded hardware server. Even then, if the handshakes were too much, it'd just drop the connections and continue to serve those it could. It wasn't enough to knock the whole thing offline. If a 16bit 200Mhz microprocessor can handle a few thousand connections/second, then a modern processor should definitely be able to stay upright fairly easily.
I am still skeptical TLS handshake on site visit is actually bogging down anyone’s computer.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#99I mostly have port 80 egress traffic blocked on Little Snitch. The web is painful to use like that but gives you an idea of the sorry state of websites. A lot of websites just don't serve over HTTPS, or serve them with domains whose CN or SAN don't match the host. Many that do support https have links that downgrade you back to http on the same domain.
How do you use public Wi-Fi with captive portals?
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#100The biggest problem with forcing everything HTTPS is a false sense of security & trust that this gives to none-techie users. Security of the data transfer layer does not mean can or should trust the website you are visiting. Just because a website has a padlock does not mean it is trust worthy and you can hand over your CC details. https://www.amazon.somethiing.other.co/greatDiscount may look great to some!