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Re: “Snowcrash” to be HBO series, compete with actual early Metaverses for viewers

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Post by ljm »

utopian3 wrote: post #83
ljm wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But of course it's HBO so it'll have plenty of softcore porn embedded within the plot. Despite the jokes, HBO tend to do a decent job of this stuff. Ignoring the shitshow that was GoT after season 4. The Wire, The Sopranos, Westworld... probably better in their hands than, say, Netflix.

I wish they’d spend more time on sub-plots, character development, etc. If HBO removes all the sex scenes, they could probably squeeze in an extra episode of actual content per season (I’m being slightly sarcastic).

They should really branch out into proper porn spinoffs considering how masterfully they mix story and titillation. The production value would be immense.

Game of Boners - Aiden Gillen returns to his brothel to make use of his Littlefinger namesake.

The Sopranals: Gandolfini enters Bada Bing! through the back door

etc. etc.

Which is to say, HBO actually seem to be quite tasteful with this while also being gratuitous.

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Post by gbmor »

caffeinewriter wrote: post #25
jasondclinton wrote: post #3

I'm glad to see this happen. Suspect that a network exec somewhere said: "Sci-fi! Dystopia! Rogue AI! Cyberpunk!" and then HBO went through the list of books meeting that criteria (copying the Game of Thrones formula) and picked a best-seller to make a screen play out of. The subject matter seems to fit quite well with the tech malaise we are feeling at the end of the 2010's.

I'm still holding out hope to see Daemon and Freedom™ by Daniel Suarez adapted into a movie, or a miniseries, or really anything.

Those were so fun to read! I happened upon them accidentally at a bookstore a few years ago. But I'm not sure how well it would transfer to screen.

Re: “Snowcrash” to be HBO series, compete with actual early Metaverses for viewers

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Post by MivLives »

Keverw wrote: post #41

Interesting, didn't know HBO was going to be doing online only shows now like Netflix, Apple and Amazon. Snowcrash is the book that inspired Philip to create Second Life. Then he moved on to create High Fidelity, but they are now pivoting more for virtual meetings and business use it looks. One thing I kinda don't like about the new virtual worlds, they are disconnected spaces while Second Life tried to have a sense…

I used to play a lot of second life when I was younger. It was interesting to see what happened to everyone I used to play with.

Everyone became a programmer,or a 3d modeler. Something about having a programming language and the ability to make things strapped to what was essentially a chatroom.

I wonder if your comparisons to Facebook are really fair. I always assumed Secondlife was trying to be something closer to IRC or Discord today then something like Facebook. It's not just a series of events to read but something active to engage with.

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Post by wizardforhire »

jacquesm wrote: post #40
schoen wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could say that all perceptual illusions are adversarial inputs for the human senses. They're just not damaging ones. In a lot of adversarial input stuff for AI, you're trying to get the AI to misclassify something, not necessarily to damage the AI or even change its learning at all. In Snow Crash the perceptions were definitely damaging to the perceivers, but I don't think you have to go nearly that far to have a…

True, but it was just the Snow Crash like ones that I had in mind. There are also adversarial attacks possible on all the other senses once you understand how they work at a physical or pre-processing level. You can make something cold feel hot, trigger speech patterns to go off by pre-setting them with auditory patterns, cause people to hear sounds that aren't there and so on. Given how many of these pathways are bu…

True nothing like snowcrash has yet to be created to any of our knowledges. Of course... if it was... how would we be able to respond to this thread! But this is whole other rabbit hole to go down that in light of some recents posts on the front page today doesn’t seem too fun.

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Post by Keverw »

MivLives wrote: post #93
Keverw wrote: post #41

Interesting, didn't know HBO was going to be doing online only shows now like Netflix, Apple and Amazon. Snowcrash is the book that inspired Philip to create Second Life. Then he moved on to create High Fidelity, but they are now pivoting more for virtual meetings and business use it looks. One thing I kinda don't like about the new virtual worlds, they are disconnected spaces while Second Life tried to have a sense…

I used to play a lot of second life when I was younger. It was interesting to see what happened to everyone I used to play with. Everyone became a programmer,or a 3d modeler. Something about having a programming language and the ability to make things strapped to what was essentially a chatroom. I wonder if your comparisons to Facebook are really fair. I always assumed Secondlife was trying to be something closer to…

Yeah wouldn't surprise me if people learned to code in SL and then moved on to real world projects, since learning one language is always similar to others. If you could do LSL, you could probably handle Javascript.

Hmm interesting on comparison to Facebook. Never thought of comparing it more to IRC chat rooms, but I feel like if you looked at the stats maybe it's better to put your effort into a iPhone or Facebook app if you want a bunch of users. I know there's also some stat that a large amount of the userbase just chats with friends instead of exploring the world. But also some content creators are able to make a full time living too.

http://www.gridsurvey.com/ According to that 41,905 people are online right now. But I guess my point is it seem more niche than mainstream, but still impressive and profitable.

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Post by ethbro »

anp wrote: post #82
ethbro wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

grinds teeth to dust at Netflix Altered Carbon's bastardization of the Envoys

Hey, Richard K Morgan said he was ecstatic with the adaptation. I prefer the novels’ Envoys too but am willing to follow the authors lead overall.

It's going to make Woken Furies (easily my favorite book of the series) pretty confusing.

And (personally) it felt like a cheap simplification of one of the most interesting series plot points.

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Post by Kroeler »

omarhaneef wrote: post #44

While Snow Crash is one of the all time great sci fi novels, it famously has a huge plot hole: although Stephenson saw a lot of things about the future with remarkable accuracy, he did not foresee the ubiquity of the cell phone. A simple cell phone would have undercut the main plot. Now that we know what we know, how will they account for it?

It's been awhile, but I thought VR glasses in "Snow Crash" have all the functionality of cell phones, you just need to log into a 3D metaverse to communicate with someone else.

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Post by Kroeler »

MivLives wrote: post #93
Keverw wrote: post #41

Interesting, didn't know HBO was going to be doing online only shows now like Netflix, Apple and Amazon. Snowcrash is the book that inspired Philip to create Second Life. Then he moved on to create High Fidelity, but they are now pivoting more for virtual meetings and business use it looks. One thing I kinda don't like about the new virtual worlds, they are disconnected spaces while Second Life tried to have a sense…

I used to play a lot of second life when I was younger. It was interesting to see what happened to everyone I used to play with. Everyone became a programmer,or a 3d modeler. Something about having a programming language and the ability to make things strapped to what was essentially a chatroom. I wonder if your comparisons to Facebook are really fair. I always assumed Secondlife was trying to be something closer to…

The co-founder of Second Life eventually became a VP at Facebook, where he drove the acquisition of Oculus:

https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2014/08/confirmed-facebook-purchas...

Re: “Snowcrash” to be HBO series, compete with actual early Metaverses for viewers

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Post by OrgNet »

Analemma_ wrote: post #28
ggm wrote: post #12

Watch them ruin it.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love Snow Crash, but let's be honest with ourselves: it's basically a dopey Schwazenegger-esque action movie for the IQ 115 crowd, in book form. We're not talking about something with ton of depth or philosophical complexity. I think HBO can manage.

> I think HBO can manage.

how many shows did you produce?

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