I think it's great graphic design, wasted on a project that doesn't need branding or identity, and certainly doesn't need any more publicity than it already has. That logo could have been used on something that brought joy into people's lives.
For some people systemd "brought joy" into their lives.
Segregation brought joy into some people's lives. I'm sure Stalin was quite happy about engineering the famine in the Ukraine. Every great human-created disaster was pleasing to someone. There are inevitably people who enjoy conflict, destruction, and tragedy. I mean that this logo is a waste of graphic design in the sense that the SS uniform is one of the finest examples of uniform design ever made, but wasted on an organization that would have been better off never existing.
Well, I could be reasonably sure that it was, at least before I learned today that there were other init systems that also displayed their output like that. So, the statement: > the green [ OK ], is what many people already identify systemd with is true for people like me that were not familiar with those other systems. For example, most probably use Ubuntu (and probably only Ubuntu), and as far as I know it didn't d…
I guess you're right, your experience is universal. SystemD really IS where that comes from.
What do you mean? I thought we all agreed that it wasn't.
Let me ask the other end. What context do you have to compare it to what it replaced for any given use case? Can you tell me why its good ? Can you tell me why its better? What problems it "fixes"? Reasons to dislike systemd as a professional sys admin? https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 - brick EFI based systems! https://twitter.com/bitfield/status/736868148348063744?lang=... -- Systemd broke your very m…
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 Well that seemed needlessly contentious. What a shame.
Indeed, what a shame. Firmware is so crappy that deleting variables bricks it, and the Linux kernel decides to expose those variables as a filesystem so that a simple shell command like rm -rf will actually delete EFI variables, instead of exposing them via ioctl like FreeBSD did [1]. As you can see, if systemd hadn't been invented there would be no problem.
For some people systemd "brought joy" into their lives.
Segregation brought joy into some people's lives. I'm sure Stalin was quite happy about engineering the famine in the Ukraine. Every great human-created disaster was pleasing to someone. There are inevitably people who enjoy conflict, destruction, and tragedy. I mean that this logo is a waste of graphic design in the sense that the SS uniform is one of the finest examples of uniform design ever made, but wasted on an…
Are you seriously comparing systemd with some of the worst crimes against humanity ever?
If so please look in the mirror. If not serious and just jokingly, please consider how you got to a place where you thought that was a rational and decent thing to do.
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 Well that seemed needlessly contentious. What a shame.
Indeed, what a shame. Firmware is so crappy that deleting variables bricks it, and the Linux kernel decides to expose those variables as a filesystem so that a simple shell command like rm -rf will actually delete EFI variables, instead of exposing them via ioctl like FreeBSD did [1]. As you can see, if systemd hadn't been invented there would be no problem. [1] https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS307070
A logo, a palette of colours, a typography, brand guidelines... all for an init system for Linux. They think they are fucking Coca Cola. If you don't think that's just insane... well I'm just getting old I guess.
It's an open source project, and nowadays they have logos and branding. What's the big deal? It's identifiable and helps give a friendlier face to new contributors and outsiders.
What's the big deal? It's a non-commercial, non-market, FOSS undertaking that affects the majority of users and systems. "Brand" implies a commercial, for-profit market entity. The idea of "brands" should stay within the for-profit realm, but unfortunately, young people who fell victim to brain slugs (aka corporate interns who hone their skills by "taking part in free software" in their spare time) think it's a good idea to spread this logic of for-profit companies even further, to places where it is NOT needed. It's a kind of "corporate capitalism with a human face" cr_p. And that "friendlier face to new contributors" argument is bull__it, since programmers who want to contribute to foss software are not a herd of scared animals that needs 'friendly' visual cues, and usually know what they are doing. Besides, systemd's development is centralized, and its scope is too large for a single beginner contributor, so it's ideology, like a smiley face and "Welcome!" on a fence of private property.
They didn't even ask their users about their logo, why? They decided to act like an isolated corporate entity instead, contrary to precepts of non-proprietary software. I don't think community development is even a thing nowadays, everything is semi-corporate.