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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by Slartie »

WilliamEdward wrote: post #22
darkcha0s wrote: post #8

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Until you play COD with a latency of 80ms

This is laughably first world problems. I've been playing cod and other multiplayer games with >80 ping my entire life. It's fine. I was expecting people to be worried about stadia being 200 or more ms latency but 80? Come on.

These 80ms were just fine because game engines already employ a lot of nifty tricks to minimize the negative impact of latency. Tricks which mostly only work as well as they do because the engine has an inside view on the gamestate. 80ms of video lag are far worse for the gaming experience than 80ms of "conventional" client-server lag.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by neilobremski »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #61
roland35 wrote: post #14

This makes me shed a solitary tear for Google Reader :'( And another solitary tear from the other eye for Google Inbox :,(

Google's missteps are someone else's opportunity. I use FastMail, NewsBlur, etc, all so I don't have to use Google. Vote with your wallet and choices. Use non-Google tooling whenever possible.

Yay, FastMail! I've been using them for going on three years with no end in sight. Gmail adds all the "cool" features but us old men appreciate not being told how to reply ...

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by juped »

dopamean wrote: post #57
tempsy wrote: post #38

What is going on with Google? I used to think Google had the best product team in the world. In some ways I thought they defined what modern product management is/was. Now I have no clue what they are thinking with their product launches as of late. All of their products (and marketing) invoke this conservative, risk-adverse blandness that tries to appeal to everyone and in turn appeals to no one.

Maybe I'm crazy but I've never thought google had a good product team. Has there ever been a coherent vision for their collection of products? Edit: just to be clear. I'm not saying google doesnt have good products. I use and enjoy lots of them but for a long time it has seemed like even google isn't sure how all their products fit together. Perhaps that leads to weird forays into territories that don't fit which the…

Has a Google product ever been good?

- Search (was once good, now just "marginally better than Bing")

- Reader (was good, the highest profile victim of Google Death Syndrome)

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by swinglock »

make3 wrote: post #36
bandrami wrote: post #31

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You kids today. We would play Quake over a serial line back in the day. Uphill both ways. And we liked it.

I know you're joking, but serial line afaik has lower latency than the USB stuff being used today

Maybe not, routers could have serial interfaces back in the day. They were way slow. Maybe they even ran frame relay.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by baybal2 »

tempsy wrote: post #38

What is going on with Google? I used to think Google had the best product team in the world. In some ways I thought they defined what modern product management is/was. Now I have no clue what they are thinking with their product launches as of late. All of their products (and marketing) invoke this conservative, risk-adverse blandness that tries to appeal to everyone and in turn appeals to no one.

> the best product team in the world.

There is no such team as a "product team." There are programmer teams, sysadmin teams, business admin staff teams, adhoc project teams, and taskforces.

The moment the product ships, all go minding their own business till the next big assignment. This is an inescapable problem in big companies.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by [deleted] »

droopyEyelids wrote: post #66
tempsy wrote: post #38

What is going on with Google? I used to think Google had the best product team in the world. In some ways I thought they defined what modern product management is/was. Now I have no clue what they are thinking with their product launches as of late. All of their products (and marketing) invoke this conservative, risk-adverse blandness that tries to appeal to everyone and in turn appeals to no one.

Google started to make sense to me when I started to understand their business model- Own every 'entry point' to engagement with a business, and then force that business to compete for users by purchasing Google's advertisements. Gaming is big business, Google wants to own the consumer relationship so it can force publishers to advertise/sell through them.

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Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by honkycat »

kllrnohj wrote: post #58
haolez wrote: post #37

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Then what’s stopping us from making a MMORPG with the physics of a simulator?

A lack of gameplay from the resulting physics to justify the server costs? Game devs don't simulate worlds for the fun of it. They have a purpose behind things. There's a cost/benefit involved.

> Game devs don't simulate worlds for the fun of it.

Unless you are Tarn Adams

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by teh_klev »

roland35 wrote: post #14

This makes me shed a solitary tear for Google Reader :'( And another solitary tear from the other eye for Google Inbox :,(

Google Reader's shutdown was a true act of vandalism. Sure there are a handful alternatives, but Reader despite its somewhat basic UI worked really well. And despite Google's attempts to kill RSS, it hasn't gone away.

Re: When will Google shut down Stadia?

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Post by JohnFen »

robbrown451 wrote: post #79
hombre_fatal wrote: post #69

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Sure it is. And I'd rather take it from Merriam-Webster than someone's belabored "notaverb.com" hobby horse. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shutdown First known use of shut down as verb: 1779. If your issue is merely with the lack of a space, then it just seems petty to me, like getting technical about raincoat vs rain coat.

Webster agrees with me, it should be two words, not a single word. That was my point (and is the point of the "notaverb" site).

Language is defined by how people actually use it. If people are generally using and understanding "shutdown" as a verb (which has been true in the computer industry for at least 30 years), then it's a verb regardless of what language prescriptionists say.
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