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Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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Post by GeekyBear » Sat, Nov 09, 2019, 11:21 PM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #86

GeekyBear wrote: post #62

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How is this different than every other company doing business in China, including Microsoft? >Keep your data within datacenters located in China with an Azure China account and stay compliant with international and industry-specific compliance standards. Access to your customer data is controlled by an independent company in China, 21Vianet. Not even Microsoft can access your data without approval and oversight by 21…

Did i say Microsoft is better? I said that selling point for Apple is just invalid.

Actions that are legally required of every company doing business in a particular country do not invalidate their actions elsewhere.

Google, for instance, bragged on their blog to their real customers in advertising that they now buy a copy of everyone's credit card transaction history.

No nation forced them to do that.

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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Post by ygra » Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 12:17 PM UTC

yoloClin wrote: post #54

taneq wrote: post #48

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The most brain dead thing about Windows, IMO, is that the keyboard selection is tied to locale. You want UK English but using a US keyboard (as you do on a laptop)? Screw you, it’s US spelling or a UK layout.

I find the keyboard layout switching really awkward but for different reasons. On MacOS/Linux, setting the keyboard layout is global - under windows it's per-application and the default is for shift-backtick to switch between layouts which is something I manage to hit pretty frequently. When I was working on a host where I needed two layouts (US-Dvorak + US-Qwerty for other users) I ended up solving the problem using…

It's been global by default since Windows 10, AFAIK (and comes with a better (well, a) UI for switching as well with Win+Space. I've since disabled all the other shortcuts, as I've been hitting Alt+Shift far too often.

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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Post by ygra » Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 12:22 PM UTC

taneq wrote: post #48

yoloClin wrote: post #24

I think there are sections of Microsoft that are very, very good but crappier sections are bringing down company perception somewhat - the company vision is somewhat confused when they drop a cross-platform SQL server and then introduce telementry into Windows. Microsoft Office, if anything, has gone completely backwards in regards to UX. On a fundamental level it 'just works' but when I started becoming more of a po…

The most brain dead thing about Windows, IMO, is that the keyboard selection is tied to locale. You want UK English but using a US keyboard (as you do on a laptop)? Screw you, it’s US spelling or a UK layout.

Nothing is tied to anything on Windows in that respect. Contrary to how other systems handle this. On Windows you have locale/culture (how to format numbers, dates, etc.) separate from UI language (what language menus, buttons, etc. should appear in), separate from keyboard layout.

I just encounter countless broken programs that don't really support that distinction (e.g. Chrome ignoring date/time formatting settings in its UI since UI language and locale are being conflated, some applications trying to guess the UI language based on the locale or even the keyboard layout (what thought was behind that, I cannot even guess). It's a mess, but mostly on the application side and probably because lots of cross-platform applications don't even know there is a distinction on some platforms (and gettext not knowing about UI language and thus using locale doesn't help either).

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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Post by aaomidi » Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 7:32 PM UTC

GeekyBear wrote: post #91

aaomidi wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did i say Microsoft is better? I said that selling point for Apple is just invalid.

Actions that are legally required of every company doing business in a particular country do not invalidate their actions elsewhere. Google, for instance, bragged on their blog to their real customers in advertising that they now buy a copy of everyone's credit card transaction history. No nation forced them to do that.

Actually I think they do - if they're ever legally required to give up data here they seem to not really put up a fight, or have an incentive to make the data useless for the govt.

What I'm saying is expecting Apple to have your back sounds meh.