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Netflix seems to work through a VPN for me. I sometimes use it when content is geo-restricted.
Thanks, I will experiment with leaving my VPN on.
It blocks mine, as well.
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Is there some sort of data you require from your user? I guess there's a preferences algorithm you may have cultivated, but that's really it. Unless you really care about having handcrafted the Netflix algorithm, it kind of feels like that's just an excuse.
I have the premium Netflix subscription level (4 streams), and Netflix accounts are personal. Obviously I share this with my wife and daughter. I want to split out my accounts too, for both the above reason, and that I don't like sending them a password so they can log in on their devices. Why can't we have our own accounts and manage them into a family account? But since accounts are personal, do Netflix expect me t…
Yeah, that's a different use case than above - I'm fairly certain that's exactly what the family plan is meant to be used for - multiple users in the same household.
Even then it's not great that you have to share the master account password which contains the billing information (maybe they need a read-only and admin password, but now we're complicating it past the "password123" crowd), but really that seems to inadvertently encourage good password discipline - if you don't trust the people using your account, they probably don't qualify as a user on your account.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there some sort of data you require from your user? I guess there's a preferences algorithm you may have cultivated, but that's really it. Unless you really care about having handcrafted the Netflix algorithm, it kind of feels like that's just an excuse.
I have the premium Netflix subscription level (4 streams), and Netflix accounts are personal. Obviously I share this with my wife and daughter. I want to split out my accounts too, for both the above reason, and that I don't like sending them a password so they can log in on their devices. Why can't we have our own accounts and manage them into a family account? But since accounts are personal, do Netflix expect me t…
> But since accounts are personal, do Netflix expect me to watch 4 streams simultaneously on my 4 different devices, using my 4 eyes with my 4 brain halves?
Netflix accounts are not personal. Their terms of use fully support shared use within the same household. That's why they support multiple user profiles per account.
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I'll venture a guess that a good portion of those downloaders aren't even watching everything they download to begin with. I have bought 10s if not 100s of DVDs and Blurays that to this day are still in plastic wrap, as well as books with uncracked spines. I don't think I'm that weird, and that "tsundoku" [0] is likely a thing with downloaders as well. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundoku
And gamers with dozens of unplayed games.
Indeed, I have 300 games on Steam, and I've only booted up 60 of them at all.
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#95TV execs need to stop seeing consumers as thieves. This mentality that viewers are the enemy hasn’t historically worked yet they keep repeating it. One exec even accused consumers of being thieves for not watching network ads.
If execs actually listened to consumers then most of these problems would go away. E.g. no DRM in music. But it took Steve Jobs to convince music execs of that.
Execs are only greedily into chasing the money as they are not generally technically savvy. They also don’t understand economics as they always trot out bogus lost revenue numbers where such revenue was never possible as those people wouldn’t watch if they had to pay money.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the premium Netflix subscription level (4 streams), and Netflix accounts are personal. Obviously I share this with my wife and daughter. I want to split out my accounts too, for both the above reason, and that I don't like sending them a password so they can log in on their devices. Why can't we have our own accounts and manage them into a family account? But since accounts are personal, do Netflix expect me t…
Yeah, that's a different use case than above - I'm fairly certain that's exactly what the family plan is meant to be used for - multiple users in the same household. Even then it's not great that you have to share the master account password which contains the billing information (maybe they need a read-only and admin password, but now we're complicating it past the "password123" crowd), but really that seems to inad…
Some of us who have at least some involvement with security do have to cringe a bit at this. Yeah, I have a unique password for Netflix and there's only so much harm someone with access to the account could do. But don't share passwords even with people you trust is still ingrained enough that it just feels wrong and certainly isn't a good practice in general.
Who knows who a kid, for example, is going to share the password with?
Though, as you say, requiring the password to be shared to share the account probably helps limit how casually people will give others access.
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If they all follow Disney's pricing model, that would work, but everyone wants too big a slice of the pie.
Disney has admitted that they will lose money at their current price level. Which implies strongly that they'll be increasing prices substantially in the future.
Disney has lots of ways to monetize. A slight increase in the odds your family books a Disney Cruise is a significant real monetization channel that doesn't show up in subscription pricing. Matthew Ball has a good analysis of these models[0].
[0]https://redef.com/original/nine-reasons-why-disney-will-succ...
Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers
#98All I hear them say is:
"Hey customers, it's time to dust off your pirate hats!".
Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, that's a different use case than above - I'm fairly certain that's exactly what the family plan is meant to be used for - multiple users in the same household. Even then it's not great that you have to share the master account password which contains the billing information (maybe they need a read-only and admin password, but now we're complicating it past the "password123" crowd), but really that seems to inad…
Some of us who have at least some involvement with security do have to cringe a bit at this. Yeah, I have a unique password for Netflix and there's only so much harm someone with access to the account could do. But don't share passwords even with people you trust is still ingrained enough that it just feels wrong and certainly isn't a good practice in general. Who knows who a kid, for example, is going to share the p…
Yup, and as they are in your household, there's little reason for them to actually know the password - if you're physically in the household with them, you could easily log them on yourself without ever telling them.
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#100> “I feel like I’m beating my head against the wall,” Tom Rutledge, the chief executive officer of Charter Communications Inc., said during an earnings call last month. “It’s just too easy to get the product without paying for it.” Boo hoo. All these companies thinking they can split all their content up and get people to pay for every single service are in for a (totally expected) surprise. I'll share my plex server…
Why do you feel entitled to get the product of other peoples work for free?
The moment I needed a bloody table with different companies/packages/subscription in order to figure-out how to watch that show I heard from a friend, I just go to a place where i can get it right now and watch it with my food still warm.
Its not customer's fault that the only option for that is now piracy. You want my business earn it, I've yet to see people jumping hurdles and run 10km to get McD burger. Then moment McD does it they are out of business.