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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

I'd like for you to spell out exactly what you mean by "I was a skeptic of a lot of things until..." You saw something you couldn't explain. How is this connected to skepticism? Haven't you ever seen a magic trick you couldn't explain? Conversely, haven't you ever been lied to and were convinced you knew the explanation but later found out it was wrong? The absence of evidence that something terrestrial happened is not the evidence of absence of something terrestrial happening. You saw something you are uncertain of, why does it seem like you are flirting with being certain it was aliens? Your experience was legitimate, please explain the legitimacy in linking your experience to other accounts of completely different phenomena and the alien narrative overall? I think if your skepticism was shaken you were doing it wrong.

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There’s this article that talks about how they could be radar reflecting balloons specifically designed to be seen by the navy to test their response and radar capabilities, like we have in the past against other countries.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-th...

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I have always wondered why the US government never took advantage of this sort of thing to make serious money. Just think of a massive extraterrestrial-themed resort in the desert in the vicinity of Area 51. Think of all the licensing deals.

People don’t actually want the government to be a for profit enterprise. It would mean the government being influenced by private interests with money.

They government prefers to grant franchise licenses to organized crime.

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

I'd like for you to spell out exactly what you mean by "I was a skeptic of a lot of things until..." You saw something you couldn't explain. How is this connected to skepticism? Haven't you ever seen a magic trick you couldn't explain? Conversely, haven't you ever been lied to and were convinced you knew the explanation but later found out it was wrong? The absence of evidence that something terrestrial happened is n…

I think all -isms are an ego trap. I'd like to stop there. I don't care to be validated as an experiencer or as a skeptic, both are extreme points of view if you ask me. Some people jump straight to aliens, others jump straight to bullshit.

I would give this more time but I need to go to bed, I've spent more time in this thread than I thought I would.

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I have always wondered why the US government never took advantage of this sort of thing to make serious money. Just think of a massive extraterrestrial-themed resort in the desert in the vicinity of Area 51. Think of all the licensing deals.

That's not really the business they're in but nothing stopping you from doing it!

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

I grew up in the middle of no where in rural Scotland, one night from my bedroom window I watched a glowing orb do crazy acrobatics in the air for about an hour, my sister and mum saw it as well. I'll have to ask her how she found him, but my mum contacted some guy who catalogued UFO reports in Scotland. Part of his investigation was contacting the police, my mum kept the letter they sent back: http://john.je/235ca43…

Interesting! I know it's 'cool' to just dismiss things like this but I like to believe there are still many mysteries in the world and that human beings are still pretty primitive in grand scheme of things. Especially when you consider the Kardashev scale.

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

Yeah, and I don't think they were aliens. I just don't know what they were.

We were driving through very rural Illinois at about 10 pm. I was just staring out of the window up at the sky.

Suddenly, I noticed a rather bright orb (not perfectly circular or anything, I just don't know how else to describe it) hovering in the air. I would guess maybe a quarter mile laterally, and only a couple hundred of feet up. I didn't think much of it at first; I thought it was a plane to be honest. But then it faded out -- more like shimmered out. When it shimmered back in, there were now several of them, 3 or so. They moved in very quick, defined spurts -- thirty feet left then stop, ten feet up then stop. Then these faded out, and faded back in again, but now there were 6-8 of them. More weirdly precise movements, moving separately but staying close as a group. Then they all went absolutely tearing off, directly up, in unison. Lost sight of them almost immediately.

I can't emphasize enough how close they seemed. These weren't far-off objects I had to squint to see. For those who have driven through rural farmland in USA, think about your typical interstate with a planted field off to your left. A big planted field, but still only field sized, with a line of trees marking the property boundary on the far edge. That's what these were by, and they were well within the boundaries of the field.

I was in the car with my parents, both of whom saw them. (I was getting ready to enter college, so I was probably 18.) They seemed very freaked out and refused to discuss it; I was just captivated and curious. To this day they won't discuss it and sometimes even pretend they don't know what I"m talking about.

Again, I'm not at all saying they were ETs, I firmly believe the properties of the Universe make it an infinitesimally small chance that a crossing-of-the-paths will ever occur for two intelligences, if multiple inhabited planets even exist. But I just don't know what these were. They were very close, very bright, very concrete (if that makes sense at all), and their movements were unlike anything I'd ever seen before. Very unnatural-seeming motions.

I've never seen anything like it since, either. It's not like I've suddenly started seeing lights everywhere I look.

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I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

Even a hypersonic aircraft wouldn't be capable of the maneuvers witnessed. It was also shaped like a tic tac, which doesn't align with any known hypersonic airframe shaping technique (like a wedge or waverider).

This is of course assuming that the purported maneuvers actually happened, and I’m not the least convinced that they are.

Unfortunately I can’t find the video right now, but there was a video I watched where the guy broke down the GoFast video using the angles and speed displayed screen, and made a very convincing argument that it’s not actually moving fast, but appears to be going fast do to parallax. Instead it’s basically going wind speed — like a balloon.

Similarly, as someone linked to elsewhere in this discussion, the images showing up as glowing ovals don’t actually mean anything. Everything shows up as ovals in FLIR artifacts.

I’m thinking these are just the most mundane of mundane items, that are only bringing detected because of ironically increased sensor fidelity.

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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I feel like a lot of commenters on here must first be hearing of this or have not even looked into the tic-tac case even a small amount.

You have a top gun pilot and his WSO on record saying they saw it visually along with a huge underwater craft. It moved in ways that nothing using conventional propulsion can. Hovering for example is extremely difficult, made all the harder with no wings, blades or visible exhaust.

Long form interview: Part1: https://youtu.be/3L-XG1F_S7I Part2: https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk

There are about 20+ interviews with him on cnn, Fox News, Boston herald, ny times, etc and he will be on joe Rogan soon.

I get the objections to the FLIR video or radar pings, but if you think it’s a new jet or misdirection you have to say he and his WSO and many others are liars or confused by our own tech. Our own tech means we have something well beyond standard jet engines and fighter jet tech.

There are plenty more videos with even more details like the tic tacs (there were many of them on radar) moving 20000+ mph, dropping in from 80000ft to close to the deck. The details of the carrier fleet redirecting the jets to the position of the tic-tac is very interesting as it wasn’t at their training position...until it showed up their later. The FLIR video is from another pilot who went after it, after captain fravor landed.

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