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Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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Their CLI manages to completely lock up my up to date MacBook Pro when simply downloading files and has very strange and conflicting choices of parameters. It is comprehensive, but I wouldn’t call it good

If your MacBook is truly "locking up" and needs a hard reboot, I doubt the problem is the CLI.

It pegs the processor, blocking UI updates. A reboot will not help that

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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Here is a startup idea for grabbing: Make a better interface for AWS/Google Cloud. Since their APIs covers everything this should be possible. Be the first UXaaS. A killer feature: a server by server breakdown of Google Cloud expenses. It is impossible to understand what you are paying for on Google Cloud. They lump everything together in an incredibly confusing bill.

Hmm sounds like you're missing out on the Billing > Reports or Billing > Cost breakdown sections of GCP Console's Billing section. In Reports it does exactly what you want when you group by SKU in the Filters

Incidentally a UI startup for AWS/Google Cloud is an incredibly bad idea. You're just a sitting duck waiting to be killed, and also you have no full control over the API.

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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Their CLI manages to completely lock up my up to date MacBook Pro when simply downloading files and has very strange and conflicting choices of parameters. It is comprehensive, but I wouldn’t call it good

I won’t defend their CLI arguments other than noting that they usually closely follow the also poorly-named APIs[1], but locking up is highly unusual — do you have something like AV software or other quasi-malware which might be interfering with normal I/O? We’ve used it for many millions of files over the years and that’s never been an issue on macOS or Linux. 1. AWS needs a Chief Consistency Officer who can block s…

Doing an ‘aws s3 sync ...’ on a directory with large files causes 100% CPU usage

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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I'm a solo academic researcher user and there's one thing even simpler than this that i can't stand: there is no way to check which EC2 resources are running all at once. You have to click on every single region in turn to see what is actually running. If you've had multiple types running across regions, trying shut everything down without closing the account is a real pain. I am not the only person with this problem…

https://gist.github.com/junaidk/433345da5bf8e580680d9109792d...

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

#96
post #83

Here is a startup idea for grabbing: Make a better interface for AWS/Google Cloud. Since their APIs covers everything this should be possible. Be the first UXaaS. A killer feature: a server by server breakdown of Google Cloud expenses. It is impossible to understand what you are paying for on Google Cloud. They lump everything together in an incredibly confusing bill.

I think that's why DigitalOcean is winning so much these days.

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

#97
This is the specific one I never quite understood:

* Order column by X

* Type search into input

* Column order drops

* Can no longer apply ordering when search input is there

100% understand that larger companies will not typically, or at least shouldn't, be directly manipulating infra via the web console but there is 1000s of customers that use web for small business. It's a valid customer to think about it!

ps I logged into Reddit so to add to that thread. Felt this in my soul.

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

#98
Reading these threads make me realize I am either a victim of Stockholm syndrome or most developers are way more picky than me. I’ve never gotten frustrated at the aws console, though I have noticed some of the rough edges. I guess at this stage in my career I’ve internalized muddling through stuff without letting it bother me. The only exception to this probably is when I open the door and peek through to the latest insanity in JavaScript land, which I find impenetrable. (I’m looking at you, redux/saga/whatever)

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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The three things that annoy me the most about the console: 1) state management/sync is frequently terrible. E.g you are looking at a page with some health indicator and a log view. The last entry in the log is some variation of "transitioned from busted to not busted", but the state indicator doesn't update until you refresh. 2) if you have multiple tabs open at a time (pretty common use case) there is a good chance…

> 2) if you have multiple tabs open at a time (pretty common use case) there is a good chance it will suddenly decide that you have to reload the page for some reason, often when you are in the middle of something

I so strongly agree with that observation, and have repeatedly and often submitted feedback through their in-page feedback mechanism about please, I'm begging you, never involuntarily reload my page. That's why @adreamingsoul (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20903229) saying "send us complaints, we read your feedback" is like spitting into the wind for me

I thought your "multiple tabs" was also going to mention that they have _exactly the same browser title_, no matter what subsection you have open. So, if one EC2 tab is looking at volumes, and another at instances, and another at autoscaling groups, well, too bad for you because you're just going to have to click on them all or have a good memory/tab-management scheme

I kind of figure the console doesn't get any engineering love because of what other people in here have said: they want you to use the APIs

Re: Troubles with the AWS web console

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post #83

Here is a startup idea for grabbing: Make a better interface for AWS/Google Cloud. Since their APIs covers everything this should be possible. Be the first UXaaS. A killer feature: a server by server breakdown of Google Cloud expenses. It is impossible to understand what you are paying for on Google Cloud. They lump everything together in an incredibly confusing bill.

I tried, but many APIs accessible to these front end are not publicly available.

For example, listing API keys for a given project.

By the way, how much would you be willing to pay for such a UI?

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