A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

Post by inflatableDodo » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 3:48 AM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #85

inflatableDodo wrote: post #84

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>in no way is an upright pentagram 'Satanic'. Broadly speaking, though I think it does depend on context. For instance, if practicing Satanists have attached a sacrificial victim to an upright pentagram, in order to worship Satan, then even if there may be a symbolic error on their part, that particular upright pentagram could safely be called Satanic and Satan would probably overlook the oversight.

But...Satanists don't worship Satan. The Church of Satan doesn’t believe in the devil. It doesn’t even recognise ‘Satan’ as a physical or spiritual being. As far as the Church is concerned, there is no such thing as heaven or hell. And human sacrifice? Like, that kind of thing might happen in the Highest Orders of the Left-Hand Path, the Skull and Bones-type societies George W. Bush was a part of - so conspirators cl…

Post by lostgame » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 4:04 AM UTC

inflatableDodo wrote: post #91

lostgame wrote: post #85

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But...Satanists don't worship Satan. The Church of Satan doesn’t believe in the devil. It doesn’t even recognise ‘Satan’ as a physical or spiritual being. As far as the Church is concerned, there is no such thing as heaven or hell. And human sacrifice? Like, that kind of thing might happen in the Highest Orders of the Left-Hand Path, the Skull and Bones-type societies George W. Bush was a part of - so conspirators cl…

The Church of Satan is just a way of selling libertarian humanism to the dissaffected children of middle class Christians, by inverting some biblical tropes and going woo a lot though. I tend to think of actual Satanists to be more like the mental ones found in European royalty during the medieval period.

Post by inflatableDodo » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 4:47 AM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #93

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The Church of Satan is just a way of selling libertarian humanism to the dissaffected children of middle class Christians, by inverting some biblical tropes and going woo a lot though. I tend to think of actual Satanists to be more like the mental ones found in European royalty during the medieval period.

Hey - not my cup of tea, either, as I said - but I am saying lumping Satanists and human sacrifice together is like lumping Muslims and terrorism together. Sure, it might happen, in only the most extreme cases, but it's certainly not the norm, and it makes people who try to take their faith seriously - even if, yes, LaVeyan Satanism is simply libertarian humanism combined with, quite honestly, a fairly weak system of…

Post by vel0city » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 4:55 AM UTC

0xdeadb00f wrote: post #96

OrgNet wrote: post #44

With all those hardware switches, would adding one more for locking the bootloader be a good idea to increase security?

What would realistically be the point of that? Doest that defeat the purpose of "locking" a bootloader, if it can be unlocked with a hardware switch?

Post by pjmlp » Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 5:18 AM UTC

alpaca128 wrote: post #52

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I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

The Librem 5 isn't designed for people who use WhatsApp. Signal and some other actually private messengers should work as they already have official Linux clients. That said I currently don't plan on buying it, simply because right now I'm not heavily relying on the phone. It is however the first phone released in the last ~5 years that I'd call interesting and unique.