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Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

Rather than the google solution suggested by a sibling comment, I’d suggest a look at send.firefox.com.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #35

Interestingly the article on the bottom links to a Usenix 2019 (held Aug 14 - 16) paper with the title "A Billion Open Interfaces for Eve and Mallory: MitM, DoS, and Tracking Attacks on iOS and macOS Through Apple Wireless Direct Link" Abstract: "Apple Wireless Direct Link (AWDL) is a key protocol in Apple's ecosystem used by over one billion iOS and macOS devices for device-to-device communications. AWDL is a propri…

FOSS may have downsides, for instance it's free, but doesn't have iTunes built in.

I consider both of these advantages, but some users don't. I consider the benefits of open source far exceeds the perceived benefits of Apple's Ecosystem.

Maybe as developers it's important to teach our Apple Peers the problems they perpetuate by paying for walled gardens.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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iMessage too. It's insane to me that this is still a problem.

That's not a problem. That was precisely Apple's idea: a not interoperable message network. We had XMPP among others, and Apple decided not to be open. We now also have Signal or Telegram, which are multi-platform.

And ICQ, and MSN, and BBM, and WhatsApp, and ....

iMessage isn't the first nor last proprietary chat platform. It's seen as a competitive advantage, just like BBM was back in the day.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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I was complaining about this with a coworker today. AirDrop 1 was flawless, since 2.0 it has been more often than not unreliable between Macs. I’d love to know if anyone knows the technical details about what caused this regression?

Interesting, my own experience has been the opposite. From what I remember v1 was constantly broken, initial v2 was not much better but now everything is very smooth all the time.

I had the same experience. The first AirDrop worked about 30% of the time, once AirDropv2 came along it works 90% of the time.

The "Share Only With Your Contacts" option still seems broken to me, I usually have to temporarily allow all access before AirDropping something.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #89
post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

https://files.google.com/ is a standard and it works on the vast majority of phone sold this year, by every manufacturer except Apple. Checks all 3 of peer-to-peer, secure, no MiTM network blockage. It's only 11MB. Many popular file manager apps on android have peer-to-peer xfers as well, via WiFi direct, etc. EDIT - As people are pointing out this isn't universal because it doesn't work on Apple devices or desktops…

Almost. People need to install the app to use its transfer functionality, and it does not work with computers. We're still far from the universal, no-install solution that should've existed for so many years now.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #89
post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

https://files.google.com/ is a standard and it works on the vast majority of phone sold this year, by every manufacturer except Apple. Checks all 3 of peer-to-peer, secure, no MiTM network blockage. It's only 11MB. Many popular file manager apps on android have peer-to-peer xfers as well, via WiFi direct, etc. EDIT - As people are pointing out this isn't universal because it doesn't work on Apple devices or desktops…

> except Apple

I wouldn't exactly call that universal...

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #89
post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

https://files.google.com/ is a standard and it works on the vast majority of phone sold this year, by every manufacturer except Apple. Checks all 3 of peer-to-peer, secure, no MiTM network blockage. It's only 11MB. Many popular file manager apps on android have peer-to-peer xfers as well, via WiFi direct, etc. EDIT - As people are pointing out this isn't universal because it doesn't work on Apple devices or desktops…

I can tell you right now that I will never trust Google to provide any service where it didn’t somehow collected data either about you or what you are doing and with who. Their whole enterprise is based on ass-raping anything and anyone who can produce data they can profit from. When they get caught doing whatever they are doing, they will issue press release and move on to the next set of victims.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

Rather than the google solution suggested by a sibling comment, I’d suggest a look at send.firefox.com.

They don't offer the same solution; Google's works on a peer to peer manner, no internet needed. Firefox's is more like Wetransfer.

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #81

It is 2019, and it is quite surprising - and disappointing - that we STILL haven't universally solved the means to easily, securely, and (yes, I'll use this term again) universally share files. I wish we could share files in a peer-to-peer fashion securely without hindrance of mobile platform, nor blockage of network MiTM, etc.

Rather than the google solution suggested by a sibling comment, I’d suggest a look at send.firefox.com.

I just wish they'd hurry up and make the android app useable. I signed up for the beta and was pretty disappointed as my uploads were cancelled if my screen locked or, horribly enough, rotated ...

Re: OpenDrop: An Open Source AirDrop Implementation

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://files.google.com/ is a standard and it works on the vast majority of phone sold this year, by every manufacturer except Apple. Checks all 3 of peer-to-peer, secure, no MiTM network blockage. It's only 11MB. Many popular file manager apps on android have peer-to-peer xfers as well, via WiFi direct, etc. EDIT - As people are pointing out this isn't universal because it doesn't work on Apple devices or desktops…

> except Apple I wouldn't exactly call that universal...

Yep, Apple's market share is around 11%, so only 89%(ish) of smartphones. Not 100%, and doesn't include desktops / laptops / etc.

Still, about 8x better than AirDrop!

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