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Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by futureastronaut »

maxaf wrote: post #44

Monsters can occur anywhere. What makes a real difference is a community’s capacity for looking the other way when an individual sheds their personhood in the perpetration of heinous acts. Look at religious organizations (Catholic Church, Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn, ...) and in the sports world (USA Gymnastics) and in financial/political circles. Now more than ever, if you see something - say something. No matter how…

> if you see something - say something.

Please know that you've been brainwashed into thinking this way. You're even repeating the mantra verbatim.

No, I will not willingly become a part of the surveillance apparatus. There is no justification for that degree of vigilance in peaceful times.

Edit: Flagged into the void, it's an HN thought crime! Have a good weekend all!

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by maxaf »

futureastronaut wrote: post #91
maxaf wrote: post #44

Monsters can occur anywhere. What makes a real difference is a community’s capacity for looking the other way when an individual sheds their personhood in the perpetration of heinous acts. Look at religious organizations (Catholic Church, Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn, ...) and in the sports world (USA Gymnastics) and in financial/political circles. Now more than ever, if you see something - say something. No matter how…

> if you see something - say something. Please know that you've been brainwashed into thinking this way. You're even repeating the mantra verbatim. No, I will not willingly become a part of the surveillance apparatus. There is no justification for that degree of vigilance in peaceful times. Edit: Flagged into the void, it's an HN thought crime! Have a good weekend all!

But you are willingly an enabler of child molesters. Gotcha.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by DanBC »

alkonaut wrote: post #64

Wow. I don’t think I have seen a situation before where Occam’s razor doesn’t help writing off the conspiracy. It seems harder in this case to believe someone in a jail cell on suicide watch kills themselves than to believe that it was arranged (that is, at least “allowed”). It’s suspiciously sloppy.

People "on suicide watch" die all the time. It's not super rare.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by cannedslime »

atemerev wrote: post #76

Epstein’s case shows why all those “Pizzagate” and other similar conspiracy theories seemed believable, no matter if they were fake. The current political crisis is the crisis of trust.

The instagram accounts of James Alefantis and associates was more than enough to make it believable...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by ekianjo »

mc32 wrote: post #11

This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…

It could have been suicide, as in the parties who did not want him to talk may have arranged for everything he needed to end his life by himself. Of course, it is also possible it was not just suicide. Guess we will never know.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by hbosch »

SHAKEDECADE wrote: post #30
mc32 wrote: post #11

This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…

To play devils advocate; who doesn’t want to protect themselves and that which they’ve worked for? From the poor who’ve worked hard for the past year to save up for engine for the late 70s truck. To the middle(ish) class who’ve worked hard for their first purchased two bedroom home. To the middle upperclass who’ve gone on a vacation to Branson Missouri. To pretty much everyone with children. To the ultra wealthy that…

Nice. Now play devil’s advocate to explain why it’s actually good to be involved in a global pedophilia ring.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by sfthrower89 »

buttcoinslol wrote: post #35
s9w wrote: post #18

This makes me so angry. Such an important case, so much on the line. And then this. And if you question the official narrative of "suicide", you will probably soon be labeled a conspiracy theorist. Oh an just by the way, this news broke first on 4chan (thread 222518349). That just on the matter of what the value of these sites are. edit: and already there are [dead] comments who question this

He died the way he lived: with people looking the other way.

You won the internet with this quote.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by captncraig »

s9w wrote: post #18

This makes me so angry. Such an important case, so much on the line. And then this. And if you question the official narrative of "suicide", you will probably soon be labeled a conspiracy theorist. Oh an just by the way, this news broke first on 4chan (thread 222518349). That just on the matter of what the value of these sites are. edit: and already there are [dead] comments who question this

The suicide narrative is perfectly reasonable. The fact that he was on suicide watch already is what raises questions of corruption and coverups.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein: Financier 'found dead in cell' in New York

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Post by joshgel »

mc32 wrote: post #11

This sounds too convenient. If this was a suicide and not anything more sinister, this is gross negligence by prison authorities. It was their solemn duty and responsibility to see this person face trial. This will only inflame conspiracy theory minded people to believe there is a vast conspiracy by the powerful to protect themselves. This is depressing. I’m yet hopeful evidence will be used to bring guilty parties t…

I am not a lawyer, but @klasfeldreports on twitter quotes an unnamed legal source who says:

"Background: An important note after Epstein's death: no one else will have standing to challenge the search warrant on his house. Everything will be admissible against any other defendant without possibility of a motion to suppress."

So maybe this will be a net good for justice?

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