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Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

I've always wondered if someone could copyright strike most of YouTube by having a channel filled with permutations of various sorts of ambient background noise.

I think this is already happening.

I could be wrong but I vaguely remember something along those lines

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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The problem is using juries for this. Music copyrights should be adjudicated by a panel of professional musicologists, funded by a cut of the awards. That way there’s at least some consistency. The concept would extend to other disciplines. Of course a purely functional improvement to governance is a political nonstarter in today’s environment.

It was the opinion of a professional musicologist, presented to a jury, that resulted in the lawsuit being successful. At least with a jury there's a chance of calling bullshit, even though it did not occur in this case.

A musicologist that was hired by one of the legal teams. If you are paid by one side of the lawsuit you definitely aren't impartial.

Loads of professionals think that this (and similar suits) are not only bogus but dangerous.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

Is there a legal counter to this? Frivolous copyrighting?

There are tons of legal counters, almost any of which would be a slam dunk case for having the AI-generated company's copyright revoked and the company disbanded.

But patent trolls are smart enough to have blazed a trail where you sue small time record labels that can't afford to fight you in court and are willing to settle. Any fight that goes to court, you just dismiss the suit to avoid losing and setting a precedent.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

Is there a legal counter to this? Frivolous copyrighting?

I think Independent Creation is a valid defense in copyright cases, unlike with patents.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

#96

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This sort of feels like the start of the music business's version of patent trolls. I think this verdict devalues music and hampers creativity.

New business model: have an AI generate every chord progression in every tempo, release the "songs" on your own label, and sue everyone who releases a song after you.

Independent Creation is not covered by copyright I believe.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

#98
What a schadenfreude for me. I see most people are saying it sucks, I for one can cheer on. Screw the music, movie and media industry. Tons of laws and garbage we suffer on the internet today is because of them and their lobbying efforts. There approach towards everything has been litigation hell, let them feel their own pain.

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always wondered if someone could copyright strike most of YouTube by having a channel filled with permutations of various sorts of ambient background noise.

I think this is already happening. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember something along those lines

On a similar note, a video with ten hours of static was subject to 5 copyright notices: https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-cop...

Re: Katy Perry's Dark Horse Lawsuit Makes Waves in Music Industry

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I posted this the other day. Absolutely terrible, IMO. A minor artist can take millions from an artist who releases a song with a passing resemblance. You can hear similarities in SO many songs. And SO many songs are inspired by others - great art is full of inspiration. I dread where this ends up.

This sort of feels like the start of the music business's version of patent trolls. I think this verdict devalues music and hampers creativity.

It could actually lead to a musical renaissance, where composition would favour longer non-repeating segments, rather than a verse-chorus-middle8 kind of thing that is the staple of all pop music. It could lead to more music like the classical (in which some have no repeated segments, eg Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in Dm, or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata). Imagine a song that actually unfurled like a novel does...
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