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Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by Consultant32452 »

twodayslate wrote: post #69
Consultant32452 wrote: post #59

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And requires you to jump through non-obvious hoops to make "hidden" files and folders visible.

Command + Shift + Period to show hidden files. To show extensions you can enable the setting in Finder's preferences under Advanced.

Yeah, I have to google it every time I want to do this. It should be easy to find. Like maybe right click, show hidden files. Could be in the "View" menu. There's several obvious places it could/should be, but it's not. It's horrible ux.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

pmccarren wrote: post #8

I'm certainly not a fan of the new URI scheme, but it is worth pointing out that Safari has already made the same change. Furthermore I'm not convinced said change is a net-negative for the average consumer. Safari added the setting "Show full website address", which does just that. I wouldn't have a problem if Chrome followed suit and defaulted to the new scheme, but gave us the option to show the full URI.

> I'm not convinced said change is a net-negative for the average consumer.

And this is why modern technology sucks.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by aianus »

josteink wrote: post #62
notatoad wrote: post #33

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>iPhones yeah, if you don't like this change switch to a browser that has behaved this way for years

It doesn’t hide www. And you can install alternate browsers on iPhones, you know.

> And you can install alternate browsers on iPhones, you know.

More like thin wrappers around Webkit. You can actually install alternate browsers on Android, you know.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by danShumway »

ljoshua wrote: post #34
huntermeyer wrote: post #25

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Brave ( https://brave.com/download/ ) is a good alternative too. It doesn't have the terrible UX (IMHO) that Firefox has. But it is built with Chromium (TMK).

I use Brave as my daily driver, but this trickled down into Brave as well this morning. I was confused for a minute what I had done with a subdomain on one of my sites, and then got very frustrated when I realized the Chromium team had put this back in place. A few #omnibox... tweaks later and I have it back, but it is certainly annoying.

This is why forking Chromium is not a solution. Unless a team is committed to maintaining that fork, eventually they'll be forced to merge in any of the changes that Google wants to push.

The only way a Chromium fork works is if the team is willing to stop merging after they fork and take over development themselves.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by astrobe_ »

jorvi wrote: post #81
mholt wrote: post #45

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Finder on macOS does this too. It's maddening... There was an article recently about "hostile architecture" and this is similarly a "hostile software design" to prevent users from doing something the developers don't want them to do.

Its hostile for power users but it prevents grandpa from renaming 'IMG_144.jpg' to 'Idaho_grandkids', hammering enter on the 'are you sure you want this' nag screen and then wondering what broke his picture.

It's not the picture that broke, it's not the user that is dumb, but the system that is broken. Dot extensions is a concept that should never have seen the light of the 21st century. Or at least it should be a last resort for the system to guess the file format for those formats that don't have magic numbers in their headers or for lesser known formats.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by lone_haxx0r »

"The Chrome team values the simplicity, usability, and security of UI surfaces.

This change is the complete opposite of simple. Simple is showing the real URL. Complex is trying to remember in what cases Chrome hides part of the URL and trying to guess what website you're viewing.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by cpeterso »

acqq wrote: post #74
gvx wrote: post #55

I would have no trouble with hiding " https://" in the address bar, as long they show it for other protocols (including http). It might help move us to a world with https everywhere even faster. I still prefer Firefox: protocol, subdomains and path are greyed out but still clearly legible. This way I can eyeball "on which site am I?" quickly (and read google-secure-payments.google.via.net as via.net for example) and…

It seems that Firefox stopped copying http:// (when I want to copy URL) which is very annoying to me. I need the whole address when copying.

Firefox hides the http:// scheme in the address bar, but will include it if you copy the URL. You can test with http://example.com/ and https://example.com/.

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by hannob »

magicalist wrote: post #86
xemdetia wrote: post #53

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I doubt that, because the number of times they completely ruin chrome as an intranet browser in the last few years with TLS handling, self signed cert handling, and general settings window changing malarkey shows that they are not even catering to that market very well, especially when they add a workaround and take it away in a very short window which for better or worse is often much shorter than most large organiz…

> ruin chrome as an intranet browser in the last few years with TLS handling, self signed cert handling, and general settings window changing malarkey Just put it in the OS certificate store? It's worked like that since Chrome was released.

I think the issue the upper poster is referring to are things like when chrome deprecated ancient certificate features, which enterprise-solutions still happen to use by default 15 years after they were deprecated.

(One such issue were certificates with a common name and no subject alt name.)

Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by [deleted] »

jorvi wrote: post #81
mholt wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finder on macOS does this too. It's maddening... There was an article recently about "hostile architecture" and this is similarly a "hostile software design" to prevent users from doing something the developers don't want them to do.

Its hostile for power users but it prevents grandpa from renaming 'IMG_144.jpg' to 'Idaho_grandkids', hammering enter on the 'are you sure you want this' nag screen and then wondering what broke his picture.

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Re: Chrome hides www and https:// in the address bar again

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Post by ihuman »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #78
mholt wrote: post #45

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Finder on macOS does this too. It's maddening... There was an article recently about "hostile architecture" and this is similarly a "hostile software design" to prevent users from doing something the developers don't want them to do.

Oh macOS is worse. It shows or hides extensions based on whether the user chose to include it in the save box or not. Command-line apps' output will always have the extension included.

If you set finder to always show extensions, it will always show them in the save box too.
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