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Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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Definitely agree with most of the key points, but I do question the notion that men did all of the heavy labor. Maybe in upper-class homes, but in the poorer families (which were most people), "women's work" was physically demanding... laundry was outright dangerous, for example.

but I do question the notion that men did all of the heavy labor. There is no point at which I suggested that. In fact, I made some effort to try to guard against such an interpretation. But let me reiterate some of my main points in nutshell form: 1. Men and women both worked physically hard. (I stated that previously as: Women and men were both often very overworked .) 2. Some tasks that are currently viewed by a l…

> It in no way requires any inference that women did no heavy labor to see that just piling more and more work on a woman without in some way making those tasks more manageable simply would not work.

Certainly don't mean that -- I think if anything the physical toil that women traditionally did in my grandparent's lifetime, especially given the challenges of health, etc is very much under-realized.

Robert Caro's biography of Lyndon Johnson talks in depth about the life of ranch families in the Hill Country of Texas, and about the deep impacts that things like electrification had on those families. Personally, I found it moving and it painted a picture of life that family lore, etc just didn't capture.

Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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Fold clothes and distribute them to the appropriate closets/dressers when the machine finishes, dislodge the carpet cleaning robot when stuck, fill the mopping robot with water and soaps, cook a decent meal that's not a microwave meal, put the dishes away in the cabinets and wash all the dishes which cannot go in the dishwasher (pots/pans, knives) There's a lot more happening that you give credit for even when doing…

> Fold clothes and distribute them to the appropriate closets/dressers when the machine finishes... Hanging a garment on a hanger is easier than folding it. Small clothes can be thrown into a "CLEAN"-labeled basket or bag. The laundry-person need not be responsible for restocking everyone else's wardrobes. You are inventing requirements for the task that are non-essential. Essential laziness is rearranging your life…

Knives don't go in the dishwasher because they dull faster and I'd rather spend time washing them than time sharpening them. Post and pans in the dishwasher is just a waste of space. By putting one pot in there I can not put 6 plates. The pot is easy to clean, the plates are annoying.

I have to put things away because there's no room for the pile method. I share 4 ft of closet and a 4 drawer dresser with my wife. The rest of our bedroom is mostly bed area.

I cook meals because I'm lazy. Cooking cost less money. Microwavable meals mean I need to work more to pay for those meals which is something I don't want to do. Cooking saves me time in life by costing me less money.

My life is arranged around laziness but it is different laziness than yours.

Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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> Fold clothes and distribute them to the appropriate closets/dressers when the machine finishes... Hanging a garment on a hanger is easier than folding it. Small clothes can be thrown into a "CLEAN"-labeled basket or bag. The laundry-person need not be responsible for restocking everyone else's wardrobes. You are inventing requirements for the task that are non-essential. Essential laziness is rearranging your life…

Knives don't go in the dishwasher because they dull faster and I'd rather spend time washing them than time sharpening them. Post and pans in the dishwasher is just a waste of space. By putting one pot in there I can not put 6 plates. The pot is easy to clean, the plates are annoying. I have to put things away because there's no room for the pile method. I share 4 ft of closet and a 4 drawer dresser with my wife. The…

You can optimize for time, or you can optimize for money. It's very rare to be able to do both.

Can you explain to me how a dishwasher makes knives dull, because I had not heard of this before now.

Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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Knives don't go in the dishwasher because they dull faster and I'd rather spend time washing them than time sharpening them. Post and pans in the dishwasher is just a waste of space. By putting one pot in there I can not put 6 plates. The pot is easy to clean, the plates are annoying. I have to put things away because there's no room for the pile method. I share 4 ft of closet and a 4 drawer dresser with my wife. The…

You can optimize for time, or you can optimize for money. It's very rare to be able to do both. Can you explain to me how a dishwasher makes knives dull, because I had not heard of this before now.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4873/do-knives-...

Also, if you have wood handles it'll ruin the wood.

Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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So basically: if you totally redefine the definition of the word work than it's true. I'm going to second that I'm incredulous. If only I could bill for thinking about work. Also if raising your own family is "work" what isn't work? Yeah and me going snowboarding is just emotional labor to prepare for the work week so let's call that work.

I’m just gonna pass on the family comment, but I’ll just say if you bill by the hour and don’t bill for time thinking about the (programming) work, then you’re playing yourself

I mean, I don't bill per second of keyboard contact. If I'm at my computer focused on the project then I'm billing.

But if I'm in the bathroom at night and something clicks or I'm thinking about a problem during a meal, I'm not gonna bill for that.

Re: The big little lie of the TV kitchen island

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You can optimize for time, or you can optimize for money. It's very rare to be able to do both. Can you explain to me how a dishwasher makes knives dull, because I had not heard of this before now.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4873/do-knives-... Also, if you have wood handles it'll ruin the wood.

It looks like no one in that thread could dig up any experimental evidence for it. Manufacturer recommendations are not to be trusted.

This looks like a job for some identical knives, some knife-use simulator robots, several dishwashers with a standardized typical load, hand-washing sinks, a pile of dishwasher detergent, a pile of hand-wash detergent, and an objective measurement device for knife sharpness.

My essential laziness (and lack of research grant money) prevents me from conducting the experiment myself, however. I'll just take my chances with the dishwasher.

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