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Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#91
I feel like I'm the only one that actually preferred the new butterfly keys over the old one; even after some keys got sticky and I had to get them replaced.

I was able to get a few more 2 year old internal parts replaced while it happened so it was pretty worth it IMO.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#92
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Touchbar: Never use it. Reprogrammed my keys to have Esc mapped on Caps (if it‘s hit alone) and Ctrl (it if is hit in combination with other keys).

Mind sharing what you used to get this Esc behavior? (single vs combo hit)

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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Thank goodness. MacBooks are the best laptops in many respects, but I had to cross them off the buy list due to the keyboard. I understand it's controversial, but for me I've spent plenty of time using the butterfly keyboard and it just doesn't feel comfortable to me. And I'm not some mechanical keyboard purist, actually my favorite keyboard of all time was the previous chicklet keyboard. A runner up for me is a trav…

> MacBooks are the best laptops in many respects I've never heard this before. I thought some people needed their proprietary software that could only be run on Apple products, and that is what forces someone to buy a Macbook. What are they best in class for? EDIT: Thank you for the serious responses

Trackpad, battery life, the OS.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#94
post #21
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Touchbar: Never use it. Reprogrammed my keys to have Esc mapped on Caps (if it‘s hit alone) and Ctrl (it if is hit in combination with other keys).

Mind sharing what you used to get this Esc behavior? (single vs combo hit)

I am using Karabiner Elements: https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

You can do all kinds of Keyboard modifications. See here for the mentioned mod: https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/complex_modifications/#caps_l...

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#95
I'd be interested in MBP sales figures from the batch of MacBooks with the new keyboard/touch bar.

From my perspective, despite a whole host of issues, very few people seem to have actually moved away from Mac's. I hear a lot of grumbling, but you only need to look at this thread to see people claim that the MBP is the best professional-grade laptop available today, when the issues with the OS, the keyboard, and the touch bar indicate that this hasn't been the case for years.

I assumed that for this reason Apple would have stuck with their design choice, and would iterate over time - unless there has been a significant enough drop in sales.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#96
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Thank goodness. MacBooks are the best laptops in many respects, but I had to cross them off the buy list due to the keyboard. I understand it's controversial, but for me I've spent plenty of time using the butterfly keyboard and it just doesn't feel comfortable to me. And I'm not some mechanical keyboard purist, actually my favorite keyboard of all time was the previous chicklet keyboard. A runner up for me is a trav…

> MacBooks are the best laptops in many respects I've never heard this before. I thought some people needed their proprietary software that could only be run on Apple products, and that is what forces someone to buy a Macbook. What are they best in class for? EDIT: Thank you for the serious responses

Except for trackpad and a decent MacOS, nothing really. Low quality hardware, increasingly subpar battery life on newer MBPs, battery swellings too common.

The hardware issues are common, but PR damage control teams, stakeholders, and fans will bury anyone who mentions it.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#98

Great, the butterfly keys were an enormous downgrade in terms of comfort, and one of the reasons I sold my 2017 Macbook Pro. But will they still keep that awful touchbar where the Esc and F1-12 are supposed to be? Then I'll still be passing.

I’m still using my 2012 MacBook Pro desperately hoping they release a new 15-inch line without the Touch Bar. I had bought a MacBook pro with the Touch Bar and after a few weeks I just hated it more and more and returned it.

I’m still mad about them ditching MagSafe but I can get over that at least.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#99
I hope this is true. I was about to replace my 2013 MBP with a used 2015 or shift over to Windows. (The Lenovo Carbon has a great keyboard.) I can wait until next year to see if Apple really does the right thing but if not - it's Lenovo for the new machine.
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