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I'm also on the fence about upgrading. I am thinking of just buying a mac keyboard so I have an escape key. That key is very essential to my workflow. Do you think it's a good idea?
I use karabiner [1] to remap the capslock key to esc. [1] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/
The touch bar doesn't give you the ability to touch it without click like a key. It also replaces all the f keys and the escape key. It is by far the worst thing made when working say on the bus. There is no world in which the touch bar is good in any way. There are zero benefits to it. On two years with this monstrosity I have regretted having it. And now I am seriously considering moving to windows with the new Lin…
> There is no world in which the touch bar is good in any way. There are zero benefits to it. Ok, I guess those of us who either aren't affected by it, or actually find it useful are just wrong?
There are a lot of people who like the butterfly keyboard (apart from reliability) but I thought the sentiment on the touch bar was universal.
it has the list of open apps and more (and it's highly configurable). it's not exactly the dock, though, but i find it more useful.
it needs better touch tool (https://folivora.ai), but that's quite cheap for how much it offers.
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> There is no world in which the touch bar is good in any way. There are zero benefits to it. Ok, I guess those of us who either aren't affected by it, or actually find it useful are just wrong?
I'm kind of neutral about it but haven't met anyone who said it was good. Seems like people either hate it or don't care about it. There are a lot of people who like the butterfly keyboard (apart from reliability) but I thought the sentiment on the touch bar was universal.
So I don't think it's "not good" it's just so far down on the list of how I use a computer that it isn't worth raving on about how great it is.
I did like the IntelliJ integration, to get debug controls, but now that I'm back on a desktop keyboard I don't really miss the Touch Bar. What I miss is Touch ID.
I used to love the mac keyboard. Of any non Apple laptop it was superior... until I tried out a ThinkPad just over a year ago. I honestly don’t think I could own anything other than a ThinkPad from now on for the keyboard alone.
I’m part of a really strange minority, I guess, but I absolutely love the butterfly keyboard. Though I’m not happy about the looming reliability problems
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you should try the old ThinkPad keyboards, like the X201. So nice. For the MacBook, if they had a version with a physical escape key, I'd be fine. Just make it a little shorter. It will be okay. I promise.
I remapped capslock to esc and never looked back. In fact, I’ve gotten so used to it that I remap “normal” keyboards too. I use esc way more often than I’d ever use capslock, so having it at the pinky is perfect.
> I use esc way more often than I’d ever use capslock, so having it at the pinky is perfect.
I think every 2 years I have a proper use case for it ;)
Notice how all these have an esc key. That should have been a hardware key! A message from the Vim gang.
As a member of the Vim gang, I have to say that using caps-lock is better anyway and MacOS has a built-in setting for it now, so go and fix that right away. That said, I had a MBP with touch bar for half a year and even though I was quite excited when they announced it, I hated it. I will not buy another laptop with that thing on it.
I have a Windows/gnome history. So I still miss switching between windows, not apps, easily. Could this deliver that too? Pretty please.
As said, not sure which of the two it is.
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Unfortunately ThinkPad trackpads aren’t nearly as good as MacBook trackpads.
MacBook Pro 2013 user here, and the trackpad is a huge reason I'd continue to stay with Apple. I don't know why other manufacturers can't seem to get it right.