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Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by jefftk »

ikeyany wrote: post #77
sneakernets wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had written (in college) a small story about an "RIAA Task Force" collaborating with the FBI to raid small brick-and-mortar businesses with occupants above some fabled "listener limit" that dared to have an FM Radio or iPod connected to a boombox in the corner of the store somewhere. Everything from Barbershops to Butchershops were raided, and the small infringing devices confiscated. Given that the RIAA tried to s…

Why is it illegal to amplify music in your store if you paid for the music?

Public performance rights are handled separately from private listening.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by dan1234 »

justin66 wrote: post #71
dabeeeenster wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is still geo-fenced - its not available in the UK.

Is that a condition of Sky Sports' broadcast deal with F1?

Yes, Sky have exclusive live coverage (apart from the British GP) in the UK until 2024.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by myself248 »

I've never been in a bar where the TVs had their audio on. The sports games are on screens but muted, and some have closed-captioning turned on.

Wouldn't that defeat this?

Slightly off-topic but I feel like relating it:

When I was a kid, we'd watch baseball games on TV, but muted. Then we'd turn on the radio and tune in whatever station was simulcasting the game. Because the radio announcers assume you can't see the action, they narrate a lot more of what's going on, so we could follow the gameplay without having to be glued to the screen every instant.

We also didn't have air conditioning, so baseball season was windows-open season, and more than once a pedestrian would pause to listen, sometimes holler "HEY WHAT'S THE SCORE?" into the house, we'd holler back, they'd continue down the sidewalk. _Everyone_ watched the Tigers in the 80s, and it was said that when a game was on, you could walk clear from Trenton to Mt Clemens and never be out of the sound of Ernie Harwell's voice.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by jdietrich »

Sky Sports use a far simpler solution that doesn't violate anyone's privacy.

The satellite feed that's licensed for public venues has a small beer glass logo burned in to the image. The amount of beer in the glass changes every day on a pseudorandom basis. An inspector can check whether a pub has the right license simply by looking at the screen - if the glass is missing or contains the wrong amount of beer, it's an unlicensed stream. It's plausibly hackable by a sufficiently motivated person, but it's a remarkably simple and effective deterrent.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/12/13/game-theory-ap...

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by Gibbon1 »

hedvig wrote: post #80
xythian wrote: post #20

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I'm waiting for a company to start paying $X to the first Y people that passively find illegal streaming. Turn people into fully aware copyright cops on your behalf. You leave an app running in the background and it listens 24x7 for unauthorized sports broadcasts.

Ironic no? This was one of the major criticism of communism in practice. Except now your neighbor snoops on you for a small profit in protecting the outsized profits of capital.

The funny thing of course is under communism copyright and patents don't exist. On the other hand under Stalinism and Maoism owning a printing press was illegal.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by thatoneuser »

ikeyany wrote: post #77
sneakernets wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had written (in college) a small story about an "RIAA Task Force" collaborating with the FBI to raid small brick-and-mortar businesses with occupants above some fabled "listener limit" that dared to have an FM Radio or iPod connected to a boombox in the corner of the store somewhere. Everything from Barbershops to Butchershops were raided, and the small infringing devices confiscated. Given that the RIAA tried to s…

Why is it illegal to amplify music in your store if you paid for the music?

Because media owners paid off enough law makers such that they have insane control over how people use their products. It's analogous to a car manufacturer putting a device in your car that will drive it back to the lot if you let someone else drive it. Except it's all over software - something that costs virtually nothing if lost.

This is only for the big guys tho. Little guys get screwed harder than before.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by thatoneuser »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #74
dcminter wrote: post #27

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The vans exist. The implied technology within them not so much. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/bbc-tv-licence-v...

The Wikipedia page states that they can monitor brightness changes through a window and correlate that to a broadcast programme. How they deal with network delays and time shifting is another matter.

That sounds like something that works in theory but not at all in the real world.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by orf »

jdietrich wrote: post #94

Sky Sports use a far simpler solution that doesn't violate anyone's privacy. The satellite feed that's licensed for public venues has a small beer glass logo burned in to the image. The amount of beer in the glass changes every day on a pseudorandom basis. An inspector can check whether a pub has the right license simply by looking at the screen - if the glass is missing or contains the wrong amount of beer, it's an…

But what if you are pirating a legal stream? Does the beer glass change per subscriber? And then surely they would know by just asking “does this pub, at this address, have a sky sports subscription?”

Seems simpler?

Also, side note, I’ve never seen the glass anything other than full.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by zamadatix »

jdietrich wrote: post #94

Sky Sports use a far simpler solution that doesn't violate anyone's privacy. The satellite feed that's licensed for public venues has a small beer glass logo burned in to the image. The amount of beer in the glass changes every day on a pseudorandom basis. An inspector can check whether a pub has the right license simply by looking at the screen - if the glass is missing or contains the wrong amount of beer, it's an…

This does nothing to prevent streaming the game it prevents bars from buying consumer service instead of business service.
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