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Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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Chromium on mobile has always had issues with AMP for me, I've just come to acept it I think it's wrong for a monopoly to take control of what another entitys site looks like. It's a we can take care of EVERYBODY feature: we were fine without it and will be fine when it doesn't exist anymore

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion on the actual bug in the comments. In the screen capture the user shows, the AMP header shows the link icon in the upper right corner, and when you click it it should show the real URL and let you navigate through (but that's not happening, hence the bug). However, in my experience the header is totally different. There is an (i) icon in the upper left corner that shows th…

Why should a community of highly skilled engineers provide free debugging labor to a giant corporation to fix a bug in a product that only exists because Malte Ubl wanted to get promoted?

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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It's ironic to me that AMP is a problem we all brought upon ourselves, really. It's almost (jokingly) a Prisoner's dilemma [1]. Had no one ever opted into it, it probably would have just been swept under the rug by Google, and a win-win for us all. But since a competitor of yours ( probably ) opted into it to get ahead of you, you now have to opt into it also, to compete and get the same SEO "power juice" it gave the…

You think SEO specialists give a shit about AMP? They just care about how high your page ranks in Google--if anything, they'd love it if the web was more Google-centric.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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post #42

AMP links are a major reason I switched to duckduckgo on mobile. Google seems to be shortsighted in doing this. Yes, only a tiny minority of technical users will know what amp pages are and switch search engines to avoid them. But, a larger group will likely find the amp pages annoying , even if they can't precisely articulate why. This weakens google's hold on the market.

Why do you think a larger group will find AMP annoying? I know I'm in the minority, but I generally like AMP in my search results.

If it breaks things. For example, I had a common issue where reddit links in search didn't have comments and I had to click through to get to them

If the amp page displays what you expect, it works well. It it makes you click through, it doesn't.

Of course, users may or may not realize amp/google are the reason a site is broke.

Dunno how many people have issues like this though. Reddit was the main one for me, plus a few random sites having issues.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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post #46

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I don't think I've ever seen anyone on HN defend AMP. We all hate it. It's a pox on the modern web.

I've defended it in the past when it used to be faster (combined with pre-loading) than most websites, on mobile. Nowadays, it should be quite easy to optimize a website enough to be faster than the AMP version, but it seems not many websites are even trying…

Not true. Sites can’t safely preload and pre render non-amp pages, so non-amp pages will never be as fast as amp pages.

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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post #94

It's ironic to me that AMP is a problem we all brought upon ourselves, really. It's almost (jokingly) a Prisoner's dilemma [1]. Had no one ever opted into it, it probably would have just been swept under the rug by Google, and a win-win for us all. But since a competitor of yours ( probably ) opted into it to get ahead of you, you now have to opt into it also, to compete and get the same SEO "power juice" it gave the…

You think SEO specialists give a shit about AMP? They just care about how high your page ranks in Google--if anything, they'd love it if the web was more Google-centric.

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Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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It's ironic to me that AMP is a problem we all brought upon ourselves, really. It's almost (jokingly) a Prisoner's dilemma [1]. Had no one ever opted into it, it probably would have just been swept under the rug by Google, and a win-win for us all. But since a competitor of yours ( probably ) opted into it to get ahead of you, you now have to opt into it also, to compete and get the same SEO "power juice" it gave the…

Agreed. Further to your point, AMP was only ever needed because we made our pages so artificiality heavy in the first place

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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post #61

This seems to be a way for Google to make revenue from news sites and is a clear abuse of monopoly power. When I click on an AMP news link, I see a “carousel” at the top that shows multiple news articles. I can go to various articles on a topic by swiping left or right, all without going back to the news site. But now that Google has removed the link to visit the site, it is clear they don’t want you to visit the act…

No, multiple ad networks (100+) are allowed in google amp, so publishers are free to chose what monetizes best: https://marketingland.com/google-says-100-ad-networks-suppor...

Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working

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post #84

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What "power in another industry" is being gained?

How is this confusing? What's not clear to you?

The 'other industry' part. AMP clearly expands and entrenches their power in parts of the web they are already in, but it's unclear what other or newer industry it is supposedly helping them dominate.
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