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Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Being able to setup a legal program like Plex and knowing how to pirate high quality versions of all the media you want are two different things. People bought into Hulu and Netflix when you could get nearly everything you wanted to watch on their services.

Plex is legal to use, but not all that easy to set up, at least in my experience. At least, I would expect anyone capable of using Plex longterm on a TV to also be able to pirate stuff. The point about legality wasn't about Plex, however. It was about paying someone to torrent stuff for you, which is still copyright infringement.

Setting up plex on a playstation 4 though that you just want to use the plex share feature is not hard though.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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> But their shows were a boon for Netflix's nascent streaming service, which had a small library of old movies when it debuted in 2007. That’s exactly what Netflix is right now . There’s a dearth of new content besides Netflix’s own originals. Netflix routinely suggests titles from 10-15-20 years ago and rarely any newer titles (outside some of the bigger blockbusters like Star Wars).

I don't know what Netflix is like in America but all my content is nothing but new stuff... The only thing that's "old" that shows on my "popular on Netflix" (or what ever its called) section is Friends.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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> used to invest in serious drama, now it’s all lowest common denominator crap Given that it's Netflix we're talking about here, I find this extremely depressing as it likely means the studios were right; people don't want nuanced thoughtful drama, they want mediocre predictable sitcoms and cop dramas.

HBO seems to still be producing very good dramas. Prime has had one or two offbeat gems recently. I think there’s still a strong market for it, but Netflix is clearly pursuing something else.

What's good on HBO? I used a VPN to subscribe to HBO and Hulu and ended up canceling it because I ended up watching more Netflix than those services...

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Piracy is alive and kicking in a lot of countries still, as I'm sure some of you know. Netflix is probably partially at fault for this. When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying. Of course, a VPN takes care of this (to an extent).

> When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying.

This is, a lot of time, not Netflix fault (or only partially). Distribution contract with exclusivity clauses can have been signed before Netflix ultimately implanted in the country. It means, they cannot get the right to stream even if they wanted before X years. They also have to start competing against local company who are already well integrated in the local market and can have more leverage power / money to invest. At the end of the day, hen Netflix start in a country with X amount of user but a local TV station already have several time the viewer, there is less incentive for Netflix to spend big bucks to get a specific license until they reach a bigger amount of membership.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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This is the same old out of touch attitude that led to the “you wouldn’t steal a car would you” commercials. Nobody has to watch the content but they want to. You have fly-by-nights and unethical operations abounding that make everything only a google search away, sometimes with a single click. I agree that people should not be entitled to the intellectual property of others. However, like the war on drugs and sex ed…

> You have fly-by-nights and unethical operations abounding that make everything only a google search away, sometimes with a single click. Somebody uploaded the entire The Queen's Corgi on YouTube in pristine 720p quality (they must have had access to a BluRay to get this quality) and it's not even out in the USA yet (I am not even sure it'll even be released at all). No tricks, no visual artefacts to hide it, nothin…

>The Queen's Corgi

Interesting rabbit hole, that one. Seems to be a movie to cash in on "The Secret Life of Pets" which itself was probably a movie made to cash in on whatever Pixar had at the time. Release dates are wonky - it's been out in Belgium for months, which is probably how it appeared online.

I hadn't heard about the movie before - but because someone pirated it maybe I'll watch it now.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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I used to always use a VPN for Netflix but then they started cracking down and it stopped working. Are you still able to use a VPN to view content from a different region?

if the vpn is well known it gets blocked by netflix, have to experiment with what doesn't get tracked

Setting up you own VPN with a cheap VPS has a higher chance of working but you have to be careful about your VPS provider. For example, I know that a lot of OVH owned IPs are banned from Netflix.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage. People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

I'm disappointed, but not suprised, to see this post so high. Despite all the ways of watching films at home, cinema is having its most successful years ever, so clearly many people are enjoying the films Hollywood is putting out.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised in your measurement of success. Many tout record box office takings as clear success but I rather think that really reflects on inflation (both real and artificial).

Look at admissions over time. I only have UK numbers to hand [1] but despite an increasing population, we're still at barely a tenth of our 1950 numbers. MPAA stats [2] seem to show the US in decline over the last few years but I cant find a nice table to do an 84y comparison.

So again, cinema might be taking absolutely more money than ever before, but that's probably through higher ticket sales. Numbers of bums on seats is not breaking any records.

1: https://www.cinemauk.org.uk/the-industry/facts-and-figures/u...

2: PDF!! https://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MPAA-Theatri... (there are other reports for other single years but they're hard to grok out the attendance numbers).

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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At least with video games, having access to multiple online stores is free. Steam and the epic store work side by side just fine - unlike video there's no subscription fee to have access to both catalogues.

Well, and for those of us who had the GOG and/or Uplay launchers anyway, or already had our achievements fractured between PC and one or more console ecosystems, having to install the Epic Games one just wasn't that big a deal. Especially with the bait of free games, exclusives, and the crazy $10 off summer sale promotion. I got it for the Hades early access and to play Transistor and Rime for free.

Used to be more lax about it, but now i limit where i have my digital goods at. I have steam and gog accounts.

I had/have whole bunch of games both on other sites, but after having my cc info stolen several times when buying stuff from random sites, I limit my exposure.

I do have uplay, and ea store on my computer, but i did not buy any games on them (and they don't have my cc info), they were requirements for playing games i bought on steam.

I might eventually also get epic store, if it lives for couple of years, and doesn't get any breaches, and has games I am interested in (don't really care about shooters)

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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You are not accounting for the important part of sourcing the pirated movies and running a Plex server though? That's what 99% of the people who only want to consume will be struggling with, not the playback client.

Sonarr/Radarr can acquire the media files fairly easily, requires not that much setup. If torrent is risky in your country, they also support Usenet, which has most of the recent releases as well (and can be faster in some situations).

Setting up sonarr and radarr is not trivial, especially if you’re hooking it up to Usenet. I spend a couple of hours every year repairing the setup after the NAS has updated the mono version.

Finding the right Usenet server and the correct alternative block accounts, and then just the right search provider. Ugh. But it’s magical once everything is setup.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Piracy is alive and kicking in a lot of countries still, as I'm sure some of you know. Netflix is probably partially at fault for this. When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying. Of course, a VPN takes care of this (to an extent).

I used to always use a VPN for Netflix but then they started cracking down and it stopped working. Are you still able to use a VPN to view content from a different region?

It also depends on which country you want to watch through a VPN. The most desired countries like US / UK usually have a lot of working VPNs available as the VPN companies put a lot of resources into keeping them working. Using a VPN for a smaller country usually doesn't work in my experience.
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