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Re: Today you, tomorrow me

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Post by [deleted] »

snth wrote: post #72
edw519 wrote: post #47

Funny, as I read this post I thought, "Not hacker news." Then I read all the comments (42 as of this writing) and still thought, "Not hacker news." Then I realized, "Perfect hacker news." Let me explain... I try to approach my business just as the Mexicans in the story did. Not to make money, not to change the world, not to build cool stuff (well maybe just a little), but to genuinely help people. For a business pers…

I appreciate the sentiment, but "it'll all work out in the end" seems like a warning sign of wishful (poor) thinking.

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Re: Today you, tomorrow me

#92

Post by maguay »

charliepark wrote: post #45
malbiniak wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you accomplish what you set out to do with your comment?

Seriously? What the fuck. His comment wasn't clear. Was his comment to distance the Golden Rule from Christianity? I'm having a hard time interpreting it otherwise, but that's an ignorant effort, as the "do unto others" concept predates Jesus of Nazareth by 1,000+ years. I'm still not clear on what the point of his comment was; all I did was ask for clarification, with NO commentary at all. Can you clarify his initia…

Sorry for all the confusion! I'm actually a Christian, and wasn't meaning it as something to distance the Golden Rule from Christianity. I was simply meaning that I think the phrase I mentioned, which the original article quoted, is a great way to rephrase the Golden Rule. Just like we now say "24/7" instead of "all the time" or other similar phrases, this phrase can be used to sum up the Golden Rule (or other similar ideas) in a memorable way.

Hope that clears things up! I definitely wasn't trying to start a controversy. Hope you have a Merry Christmas season :)

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

#93

Post by run4yourlives »

noonespecial wrote: post #10

One of the first times I stopped to help what appeared to be a person with a flat, I got a good long (loud) lecture about how just because she was a woman, she wasn't helpless... how men should just ... if we'd all just... call the police if I don't ... Honestly, I couldn't tell by sight at 5 feet is she was male or female. To say this response caught me by surprise is an understatement. Over the long haul, this expe…

She was more than likely:

1. Pissed at her flat. 2. Terrified that some guy stopped to "help" her.

Then again, she could just be a bitch. They do exist.

I wouldn't alter your behaviour though because of this type of reaction. Life is too short to suffer fools.

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

#94

Post by T_S_ »

When I was a teenager in the 70's I used to hitchhike around town whenever I got tired of waiting for the bus. Hard to imagine today. Invariably the guys (never a woman) who would pick me up had been in military service, and had to hitch a ride into town whenever they got base leave. Sympathy requires understanding, a little wealth can breed ignorance.

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

#95

Post by bingaman »

lylejohnson wrote: post #68
dazzawazza wrote: post #2

If you live in the UK you will surely know Dave Gorman [1]. He did a TV show called American Unchained [2] where he attempted to get across America without using chain stores. In that series I saw an America that I recognise from the Americans I know and have worked with (I've never visited America). Americans are some of the most friendly, optimistic and outgoing people in the known universe. In the show he experien…

I checked for this DVD on Netflix but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if there's a way to see it other than ordering this DVD from Amazon UK?

cough bt cough

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

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Post by sid0 »

snth wrote: post #72
edw519 wrote: post #47

Funny, as I read this post I thought, "Not hacker news." Then I read all the comments (42 as of this writing) and still thought, "Not hacker news." Then I realized, "Perfect hacker news." Let me explain... I try to approach my business just as the Mexicans in the story did. Not to make money, not to change the world, not to build cool stuff (well maybe just a little), but to genuinely help people. For a business pers…

I appreciate the sentiment, but "it'll all work out in the end" seems like a warning sign of wishful (poor) thinking.

Ah, the just-world phenomenon. Some people call it a fallacy -- I for one am not so pessimistic.

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

#97

Post by ck2 »

The $15 gas can is exactly why I picked one up for $3 and keep it in the car.

It's been transfered over three cars now and I've never used it but one day will. Some stations might not even have one to loan. Same thing for jumper cables (which I've used twice in two decades for myself, and another couple times to help others).

But there's a 180 degree different perspective here too as a woman, there will always be a few people who stop, but I rarely trust any of them. This is why I carry two different kinds of old cellphones in my car (one sprint, one GSM) since they can still call 911 or I can call AAA on my regular phone.

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

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Post by mcepl »

noonespecial wrote: post #10

One of the first times I stopped to help what appeared to be a person with a flat, I got a good long (loud) lecture about how just because she was a woman, she wasn't helpless... how men should just ... if we'd all just... call the police if I don't ... Honestly, I couldn't tell by sight at 5 feet is she was male or female. To say this response caught me by surprise is an understatement. Over the long haul, this expe…

I am European as well, and although I completely agree that American people are the best part of the American experience (INS officials being an exceptions, because they are not humans, of course), there was this one exception the first week I came first time in my life to Boston. I was rushing to the revolving door and I saw a lady obviously some kind of professional who was rushing to the same doors. I have opened the door and hold it for her. I couldn't believe when I was slapped on my face and told she didn't need a help from a sexist pig. Fortunately, I have not gave up on being courteous and I have never repeated this experience, but this was surely weird situation.

Greetings over the Pond!

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

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Post by hieronymusN »

You can see this in action almost every day in New York City. On a crowded subway car, if a pregnant woman or very old person gets on the car it is almost always a Hispanic male who jumps up to offer their seat, even if it means standing up for the rest of a long commute.

As a middle aged person who grew up in Houston, I can remember having these basic values (golden rule/help other people) drilled into me by parents/teachers in the 70's.

Somewhere along the way urban life seems to have washed those values away.

Re: Today you, tomorrow me

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Post by alex_c »

yellowbkpk wrote: post #33
dazzawazza wrote: post #2

If you live in the UK you will surely know Dave Gorman [1]. He did a TV show called American Unchained [2] where he attempted to get across America without using chain stores. In that series I saw an America that I recognise from the Americans I know and have worked with (I've never visited America). Americans are some of the most friendly, optimistic and outgoing people in the known universe. In the show he experien…

On. The complete opposite end of the spectrum check out Top Gear's show where they visited the American South. Obviously it was meant to provoke but it does bring up a few good points. I'd link you but I'm on my phone.

It was an entertaining episode, but I can guarantee you can get that reaction in pretty much any country if you try hard enough (in many countries you'll likely end up in a far worse situation).
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