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Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by celrod »

ncmncm wrote: post #17
zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

Dark mode, for the first time ever, has legitimate, objective reasons to want, now that we have pure LED displays: a black LED pixel consumes no energy.

I regularly get migraines, where "bright" lights are searingly painful to look at. When the symptoms aren't too bad, dark themes on a text editor are okay, but light themes are not.

Migraines aren't an uncommon problem.

I think that is a fairly objective reason driving the preference.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by deagle50 »

asark wrote: post #66
helb wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox will now detect if your computer’s memory is running low, which we define as lower than 400MB, and suspend unused tabs that you haven’t used or looked at in a while. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2019/05/21/latest-firefox-rele...

This really needs to be an OS-level toolkit thing, like on iOS. It's nutty to have applications inspecting system memory use to figure out if they should take pressure off. Ideally I'd be able to suspend entire desktop sessions and all the applications in them, then open a new, clean one, then go back to the old one later. Task-based (work, vacation planning, book research, et c.) GUI session suspend/resume is my #1…

This. In the meantime, I'll settle for a real session save/resume in MacOS. I have to reboot often and "restoring" is a mess.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by markdog12 »

markdog12 wrote: post #68
markdog12 wrote: post #60

> We have seen great growth in the use of AV1 even in just a few months, with our latest figures showing that 11.8% of video playback in Firefox Where are people playing AV1 videos? YouTube released an AV1 playlist long ago, and haven't added a single video since release: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyqf6gJt7KuHBmeVzZteZ... Besides that, I've only seen a few in the wild.

It does seem YouTube has AV1 videos, at least for lower resolutions (720p and lower)

I've even found some in 5k, although they don't play back hardly at all. Performance not there yet.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by danShumway »

radcon wrote: post #65

I can't find much info on the fingerprint protection. Has anyone tested it thoroughly? Do we know if it's effective against current fingerprinting methods? Can we actually rely on it, or will it simply be a matter of days/weeks before websites adapt to defeat this protection?

I don't think it's sufficient yet to stop someone determined, but I do think it's a step in the right direction, particularly when combined with a VPN. I'm looking forward to the letterboxing improvements.

Anecdotally, I get a lot more captcha's when it's turned on. I regularly log in to sites and get prompts telling me I need to enter email confirmation codes. I signed up for a service recently that auto locked my account immediately on signup because of "abuse detection".

To be clear, I take those as positive signs. My rough metric is that if privacy invasive sites are mad at me, I'm probably doing something right. So that's certainly not hard proof that it's effective, but it's at least circumstantial evidence that websites that I know fingerprint me get irritated when I turn it on.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by neogodless »

backpackway wrote: post #9

> Save passwords in private browsing mode While this might be handy when visiting your favorite paid porn site, isn't this counter-intuitive? When I am in private mode, I expect nothing to be saved.

Yeah - I still think it's crazy that when using (mobile) Chrome, if you poke around in bookmarks, it will remember what folder you were in. So there's some hint of where you've been if someone else would then go to use Chrome bookmarks.

You might argue that if you really want private browsing, don't use bookmarks, but I feel that's a weak argument.

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by Harvey-Specter »

ncmncm wrote: post #17
zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

Dark mode, for the first time ever, has legitimate, objective reasons to want, now that we have pure LED displays: a black LED pixel consumes no energy.

Don't most dark themes actually use dark grey rather than black? The material design dark theme guidelines [0] were posted recently and recommend dark grey as the primary surface colour.

[0] https://material.io/design/color/dark-theme.html#

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by callahad »

saagarjha wrote: post #34
zimbatm wrote: post #11

Firefox 67 also the first browser that ships with `prefers-color-scheme` (aka dark mode) after Safari. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref... And it does the right thing and disables the feature when enabling the resist fingerprinting option. I did a small survey and only very few websites have developed a second dark theme: https://zimbatm.com/DarkMode

Is there a way to test a specific color scheme from the web inspector instead of having to change the system appearance?

I'd expect controls for this to improve in the future (e.g., https://bugzil.la/1547818), but for now you can use this add-on to force a dark scheme: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/dark-mode-website-s...

Or, in about:config, set the hidden ui.systemUsesDarkTheme to 0 for light, 1 for dark, and 2 for no preference

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by callahad »

saagarjha wrote: post #37
geekles wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Microsoft Edge has prefers-color-scheme as well.

But Chrome itself doesn't, interestingly?

Looks likely to ship with Chrome 76, which I believe is the current dev channel: https://www.chromestatus.com/features/5109758977638400

Re: Firefox 67.0 Released

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Post by driverdan »

testvox wrote: post #35
ncmncm wrote: post #27

Running Firefox under Qubes has become increasingly frustrating, as tabs crash whenever (apparently?) they try to use WebGL, or anything that depends on access to a GPU. More and more, Firefox seems to depend on GPU access (or something?) and fails hard when it's not there.

Yeah I had to disable gpu acceleration on Firefox in parallels. Otherwise it rendered black boxes for elements with certain styles.

That sounds like a Parallels / driver problem, not a Firefox problem.
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