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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#91
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No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Huawei really needs to give everyone bootloader unlocks so that people can move to LineageOS in the meantime.

They will probably lose support from mobile carriers at that point.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#92
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your phone was manufactured by a front for a foreign intelligence service. It was never secure.

Just to play devil's advocate, do you have any citations for that statement?

No. Although Huawei did do some shady shit, like come up with a bonus scheme based on how much IP/market intelligence their employees could "acquire" from their competitors.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#93

Huawei already saw this coming; at least that's what the company signaled last march when they announced they have a 'backup OS': https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/03/14/huawei-confirms-os/

A better source thats not google amp https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3001685/huawei-co...

I'm not sure why this is being voted down. I'll take a well-known Hong Kong newspaper (in this case the South China Morning Post) over a tech blog re-writing other people's journalism any day.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#94

At what point does China just develop its own mobile OS? There seems value in just taking the reigns, and making whatever you create open-source, so that ZTE and all the other Chinese manufacturers can use it as well. Its certainly a major blow to the value of Huawei phones.

At what point does China just develop its own mobile OS?

Three months ago.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3001685/huawei-co...

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#95
post #72

I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

China is the only country that can threaten the US' status as the number one superpower in the world. Huawei's lead in 5G technology is broadly seen in Washington as a threat to US interests even though the US government has no concrete evidence of wrong doing.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#96
time to fully embrace their own AppGallery app store, in the end Google can be shooting their own leg, users won't care what app store they use when they find there what are they looking for and play store is shitshow for years ignoring UX missing basic search filters or sorting

GMS is bigger issue though WhatsApp or signal work both fine without gapps, not sure about other messengers I don't use and in general it's hard to find app which has really problems without gapps other than ridesharing apps with last devs relying on gmaps

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#97

Huawei already saw this coming; at least that's what the company signaled last march when they announced they have a 'backup OS': https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/03/14/huawei-confirms-os/

If it is an optimized version of Linux, then they should just release it. It will probably be better than Android.

Huawei still uses outdated, insecure versions of OpenSSL through their basestation code, and has successfully avoided using version control despite promising to address both issues back in 2012. This seems like an optimal environment to engineer an optimized version of Linux!

https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/uk-says-huawei-equip...

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#98
post #55
post #17

Well, Android is opensource so they will be able to just run it, but without that google crap such as gmail, maps, assistant, etc... Which sounds like a good thing to me. I'll try to buy a new Huawei phone soon.

Heh, there will be a rude awakening when they try AOSP or the open-source Android.. "wait, it doesn't have a launcher?" No, seriously, AOSP is very far from useful. That's before you consider that to run Android on any sort of recent hardware, you need manufacturer support from the chips you are using, which you can't get if you are barred from trade with them.

Huawei has pretty much everything their own including launcher, dialer, email etc

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better source thats not google amp https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3001685/huawei-co...

I'm not sure why this is being voted down. I'll take a well-known Hong Kong newspaper (in this case the South China Morning Post ) over a tech blog re-writing other people's journalism any day.

SCMP is owned by Alibaba, they're far from impartial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#100

Quick question - if someone buys a Huawei phone without Play Store and Gmail, could they just download those things later? E.g. could it be done aftermarket?

I believe they cannot, Google demands certification before allowing their apps to be used. It's impossible to sideload google apps.

Google apps and a lot of other apps need Google Play Services to work.
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