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VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by fivefive55 »

bdamm wrote: post #81
mach5 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not sure what your problem was, i had two TDI's and did buybacks for both and, though it took a while, the experience was pleasant and the offer was generous.

The problem was I couldn't do a buyback due to my life situation - I was not in a place, at the time, where I could just give up the car and go get another one without major disruption. Think days off work. So I opted for restitution.

Yeah, they really screwed you if you opted to keep the car. My dad has a TDI and wanted to keep it but the number of hoops to jump through was ridiculous. Plus they wouldn't have the fix for a year and he couldn't get a sticker for the car without it. Ended up doing the buyback instead.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by all2 »

mikestew wrote: post #59
kvakvs wrote: post #28

What game industry and preorders have taught us — never do any preorders until the real thing is out and first reviews start coming in.

The only regret with pre-ordering a Nissan Leaf before release was that the company Nissan hired to run the pre-orders fucked it up. People who ordered up to six months after we did got their cars months before we did. But when we were finally given a hard date, it showed up on that date, and we've been happy with it since. The only reason I don't jump in line for the ID is because my wife and I are really hoping the…

You'll be glad to see this, then.

http://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/future-cars/official-the-vw-...

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by batbomb »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #17
allset_ wrote: post #13

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e-Golf is not the ID.3. The e-Golf is available for purchase in multiple markets and has a max range of 125mi.

And it has been in production for years. I think they sold only 1400 of them in 2018.

If they only sold 1400 of them, then more than 10% of them must drive on the 280 every day.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by greglindahl »

jdietrich wrote: post #23
jillesvangurp wrote: post #10

I've seen a few e-golf's charging on the streets in the past few weeks in Berlin. I assume these are pre-production models. Looks like a normal Golf aside from the charging port. From my understanding, this is a big step for VW. However, short term, they will likely have range and production capacity issues, just like Tesla did not exactly hit the ground running. I would not be surprised if this is merely a stop gap…

>Short term, Tesla could really make VW hurt by ramping up production and dropping price and competing with both their ICE and non ICE offerings. That's a very big could . Tesla have an advantage in terms of battery availability, but they simply don't have the expertise and the experience to build cars at real scale. Tesla are literally building cars as fast as they can, but they've still got a multi-year backlog of…

Did you notice that that businessinsider article is from August, 2018? Do you think that's an accurate representation of Tesla's current Model 3 production issues?

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by greglindahl »

batbomb wrote: post #93
shereadsthenews wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it has been in production for years. I think they sold only 1400 of them in 2018.

If they only sold 1400 of them, then more than 10% of them must drive on the 280 every day.

It's a "compliance car" intended to meet California EV sales minimums. So yes, you see more of them on 280 than you might expect from the total US sales.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by dillonmckay »

bdamm wrote: post #37
jdietrich wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Short term, Tesla could really make VW hurt by ramping up production and dropping price and competing with both their ICE and non ICE offerings. That's a very big could . Tesla have an advantage in terms of battery availability, but they simply don't have the expertise and the experience to build cars at real scale. Tesla are literally building cars as fast as they can, but they've still got a multi-year backlog of…

VW also has years of fooling themselves by prioritorizing the diesel technology over electric development and running an enormous fraud in the process. This will have held them back. I don't think VW can ramp up as fast as they will want.

The company has some significant management issues.

It will be interesting to see.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by dillonmckay »

blattimwind wrote: post #52
jaytaylor wrote: post #39

Based on th emissions scandal, I'm unlikely to ever consider a VW vehicle, period. Even though most of the auto industry is also full of dirty money grubbing scum. Not sure what the best move is, until giving it more thought I'm avoiding purchasing another vehicle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_device#Timeline Good luck finding a car manufacturer that can deliver and isn't on that list.

Toyota was only mentioned for an ambient temp. sensor. The intent does not seem nefarious, compared to the bulk of the other incidents.

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by modzu »

chaostheory wrote: post #76
electriclove wrote: post #46

This is great news and now we need them to deliver (and not delay/back out). I hope they sell a ton. We really need an entrenched player to fully commit to selling EVs. If VW goes all-in, everyone else will have to follow suit. Tesla needs to keep the pressure on.

> We really need an entrenched player to fully commit to selling EVs. I don't feel that this is a problem because of California laws regarding EVs, forcing every manufacturer to sell more EVs every year.

well those mandates aren't doing much:

https://i2i.org/california-ev-mandates-fail/

i agree the comptetion between established players is required and hopefully leads to solutions to the main problem keeping many people in ICE over EV: range

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by sabareesh »

nickbarnwell wrote: post #16
mft_ wrote: post #7

Interesting (and great that the bigger manufacturers are starting to come through with their electric offerings) but the price:range ratio doesn't seem great compared to the Tesla model 3? It's hard to be objective with all of the strongly pro- and anti-Tesla nonsense flying around, but I've had a sneaking suspicion for a while that once the market matures a little (with eg Audi, VW, Porsche all offering their first-…

The least expensive Model 3 in Germany is 57.900 EUR with 540km (wltp cycle) of range – part of this is that they've only been exporting the high margin long-range AWD models. The more expensive "First Edition" id.3 will have approx 425km of range for 35.000 > x Plus, you probably get a better interior. Certainly a better built one…

I dont get people keep complaining about Tesla interior. I love the interior on my model 3 much better than any car I have been in. Can you list some of the things you dont like

Re: VW opens preorders for the ID.3, its first long-range electric car

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Post by sabareesh »

Fins wrote: post #32
andrewmunsell wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All you really have to do is look at the current e-Tron and iPace efficiency numbers-- the Model X, which is a heavier vehicle with a smaller battery, goes farther.

Audi and Jaguar are also luxury cars, and X isn't.

Ok how do you define luxury car.
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