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Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#91

Post by jacobwg »

intertextuality wrote: post #84
jacobwg wrote: post #66

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This is my personal experience, but for me, considering that the terminal is so frequently used, the small improvements add up over time. I found the font rendering more pleasant on the eyes. I'm not entirely sure why this is, and I'd be interested to see what options could be tweaked in iTerm2 to make it visually similar, but Hyper just "feels" nicer to look at for me. Second, I've found it useful to be able to cust…

You say the small things. You mean like, how quickly the terminal opens and how quickly text gets painted on the screen? iTerm2 blows hyper out of the water in those regards, and it actually does add up. Styling otherwise really isn't that difficult, but it begs the question of why do you need so much information? Are you actually developing or just spending time tinkering on your terminal to have bells and whistles…

Yeah, I mean all this is very subjective. For me I don't care about terminal open speed since I keep the app always running, and my criteria for text rendering speed is it has to be fast enough to not be annoying, which is the case for me.

It's less about having lots of info and more about being able to control how it's displayed. I really only have a few things I keep around in my prompt / status bar, and they're all immediately useful to the task at hand and are reflective of the current project I'm working inside - I jump around a lot between tech stacks for personal and work environments, and being able to know where I am is important:

- what's the git status of this project

- is this a Python or Node app

- am I inside a virtualenv

- what's the Kubernetes cluster context name

- what's the currently active Kubernetes namespace

I really hate visual clutter, so the ability to move some of this stuff to a status bar rather than keeping it around on every repaint of the prompt, and be able to exactly style it as desired with CSS, is what attracted me to Hyper. This applies to the whole UI, if there's any element I don't like, I can change it.

Similar to you, I've considered switching to Alacritty, but it doesn't hit the features/customization to performance ratio for me.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#92

Post by kbd »

intertextuality wrote: post #83
kbd wrote: post #81

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How do people use Alacritty as a daily driver when it can't open more than one window?

Tmux. Alacritty lacks basic things like splits or tabs so tmux or screen are recommended.

I know that's the answer for running multiple sessions at once, but even if you're a tmux expert I don't see how people live with only one window. I constantly have multiple iterm windows open and frequently open new windows for one-off things.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#93

Post by johnisgood »

parzivalm wrote: post #72
carmate383 wrote: post #69

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This heap of _shit_ software serves two primary purposes 1. Making bad developers feel good about their terrible development skills by letting them jerk-off their terminal theme instead of doing any real actual work, and 2. Contributes to global warming by chewing through world-wide power in levels that are completely unnecessary and should be avoided at all costs. I would rather _gouge my eyes out with a blunt spoon…

Wow, talk about someone I wouldn't want to work with... Regardless of whether or not the app makes sense or should be used, (I am not a fan of it), the rhetoric you are using is childish and immature. You can voice dislike without being an asshole about it.

Well, this is odd. I agree with him, and I really do not care about the way he expressed his opinion to the point that I would work with him more than people who think that an Electron-based terminal is a good idea. If I have to choose between the two, I would choose the former. We are different, I suppose, which is OK.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#94

Post by sirtoffski »

y4mi wrote: post #82
sirtoffski wrote: post #80

My choices are as follows. * Linux: # Tilix - probably the best option in terms of performance, customization, looks and features. https://gnunn1.github.io/tilix-web/ # Extraterm - in my experience the best electron-based terminal emulator in terms of performance. It has some neat features too. I catch myself using it more often than Tilix. https://github.com/sedwards2009/extraterm * Windows: # CMDer - pretty much th…

cmdr/conemu's copy paste is broken on my work pc. i tried all available copy-paste options (i think there were 4?). none worked. also, the screen keeps flickering with cmdr. probably a byproduct from the cheap hardware or virus scanner... so hyper won by default. i'm looking forward to the new windows terminal though. it'll hopefully get rid of that atrocity.

I usually use ctrl+c/ctrl+v for single line copy paste.

For multi-line the only thing I found to work was right click :) it then properly formats multi-line paste.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#95

Post by ahuth »

johnisgood wrote: post #93
parzivalm wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, talk about someone I wouldn't want to work with... Regardless of whether or not the app makes sense or should be used, (I am not a fan of it), the rhetoric you are using is childish and immature. You can voice dislike without being an asshole about it.

Well, this is odd. I agree with him, and I really do not care about the way he expressed his opinion to the point that I would work with him more than people who think that an Electron-based terminal is a good idea. If I have to choose between the two, I would choose the former. We are different, I suppose, which is OK.

I imagine that at one point there were people that didn't want to work with people who thought that garbage collection was a good idea. Or IDEs. Or high-level languages.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nkkollaw »

I've been waiting for Hyper to get reordable tabs (which to me is kind of a basic feature).

I wonder if this version will finally introduce this functionality.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#97

Post by nkkollaw »

StevePerkins wrote: post #33

I just don't understand the use case here. It's an Electron-based terminal... that has a thousand pretty themes, but lacks basic functionality like being able to expand your scroll buffer. It's just not usable as a daily driver. I'm not trying to hate on Electron (VS Code is my main editor now, and I enjoy it). But I just don't see the point here other than, " Look what they wrote with Electron! ". Is it the "social"…

It's just an experiment. If you try to use it and you use the terminal for work you'll see that it freezes and crashes often with more that a few hundred lines, and that it uses a lot of RAM.

It looks cool, though!

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by y4mi »

sirtoffski wrote: post #94
y4mi wrote: post #82

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cmdr/conemu's copy paste is broken on my work pc. i tried all available copy-paste options (i think there were 4?). none worked. also, the screen keeps flickering with cmdr. probably a byproduct from the cheap hardware or virus scanner... so hyper won by default. i'm looking forward to the new windows terminal though. it'll hopefully get rid of that atrocity.

I usually use ctrl+c/ctrl+v for single line copy paste. For multi-line the only thing I found to work was right click :) it then properly formats multi-line paste.

Even a single word copy paste is missing at least a few characters in the middle

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#99

Post by Per_Bothner »

nkkollaw wrote: post #96

I've been waiting for Hyper to get reordable tabs (which to me is kind of a basic feature). I wonder if this version will finally introduce this functionality.

May I suggest DomTerm (https://domterm.org)? It has builtin tabs and tiling, which can dragged and reordered with the mouse. It works very nicely (using the GoldenLayout package).

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#100

Post by iptq »

axelf4 wrote: post #89
StevePerkins wrote: post #59

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I dunno. An audience that's fine with a 1,000-line scroll buffer probably aren't heavy terminal users in the first place. Before you can "raise the bar", you need to reach feature parity with the built-in OSX terminal, or any of the hundred Windows apps like ConEmu.

Hey! No need to play gatekeeper. FWIW, when using tmux, a scrollback of 0 is more than plenty.

tmux has scroll back, just hit ctrl-b [
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