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Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by swyx »

awb wrote: post #28

Looks super cool and super happy with Netlify hosting. I just gave it a spin though and got this: Netlify Dev ◈ Starting Netlify Dev... Netlify Dev ◈ Overriding dist with setting derived from netlify.toml [dev] block: null Netlify Dev ◈ No dev server detected, using simple static server Netlify Dev ◈ Unable to determine public folder for the dev server. Setup a netlify.toml file with a [dev] section to specify your d…

hello! thanks for the report! i just pushed a small patch that now has some more helpful messages.. havent ironed out all the states yet and probably need a state machine since i already cant keep everything in my head!

https://github.com/netlify/netlify-dev-plugin/commit/1c6df00...

Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by ricardobeat »

LeonM wrote: post #85
Touche wrote: post #31

Can anyone explain the elevator pitch of Netlify to me? I know it's become quite popular in the last couple of years and I can't figure out why. I don't doubt that it's good at what it does, but it seems to do the same thing as any number of services. For example, I see a lot of people talk about it for static sites. But you get free static sites through GitHub, nearly free static sites on Amazon S3. What does Netlif…

One feature I haven't seen in the comments here is the ability to just drag and drop an entire website folder from your harddisk to Netlify and it's live within seconds. Which worked great for a couple of older personal websites I had. Second feature that is great is that you can use the cli to perform a draft deploy, which generates a unique public URL which you can share with your testers/marketeers/writers/transla…

Welcome to 1997! This is how Geocities, Tripod etc worked back then (I think geocities.ws has FTP access too, for the complete experience). Amazing to see the web coming full circle even on this.

Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by mbesto »

dmix wrote: post #47
mbesto wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically - once you have the toolchain for generating sites on your local environment, Netlify automates all of the toolchain in the cloud by just hitting 'git push'. It then has ancillary services for more "functional" components that often static sites lack (functions, forms, etc). It's one of my favorite platforms because of its simplicity.

It's basically Github.io but if you need a more serious operation on top of it. Such as a company marketing website, rather than a personal blog.

AFAIK Github.io does nothing for the build process...it just hosts static files, which means you need to build them somewhere first (locally first).

Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by kall »

Lightbody wrote: post #89

I’m curious if anyone has used both Netlify and AWS Amplify and if they can do a quick compare and contrast? In some ways they seem very similar, but their messaging seems fairly different. Disclaimer: I’m a JAMstack n00b and the last real web app I built was “old school” where we did crazy things like keep a session token around and server the HTML, CSS, and JS from a web app. As such, I may be slow on the uptake.

Netlify is focused on delivering your frontend and has some light backend features added on (form submission, lambda functions, auth). But you can't run a dynamic application on just netlify, because there is no database. But you might not need a database, which I think is netlify's proposition.

AWS Amplify is focused on providing you a backend (with GraphQL) powered by AWS services (dynamoDB, lambda). You can run an entire dynamic application with just AWS amplify. They also provide frontend hosting now, but that part I haven't used (oops that was your core question sorry). It seems that the CLI tool just configures S3 and CloudFront for you. This is probably much less polished then using netlify.

Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by wrsh07 »

Touche wrote: post #31

Can anyone explain the elevator pitch of Netlify to me? I know it's become quite popular in the last couple of years and I can't figure out why. I don't doubt that it's good at what it does, but it seems to do the same thing as any number of services. For example, I see a lot of people talk about it for static sites. But you get free static sites through GitHub, nearly free static sites on Amazon S3. What does Netlif…

I think it removes a lot of the friction of launching single page apps.

It does more than that, but that's an easy pitch from my perspective.

Re: Netlify Dev

#97

Post by kyberias »

Quote from the page:

“Decoupled web projects involve so many components. The hard part is testing all the pieces locally, together. Netlify Dev delivers this beautifully with one command.”

What are these "decouples web projects" and "components" and "pieces" that are hard to test locally, together?

Re: Netlify Dev

#98

Post by caiob »

ricardobeat wrote: post #92
LeonM wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One feature I haven't seen in the comments here is the ability to just drag and drop an entire website folder from your harddisk to Netlify and it's live within seconds. Which worked great for a couple of older personal websites I had. Second feature that is great is that you can use the cli to perform a draft deploy, which generates a unique public URL which you can share with your testers/marketeers/writers/transla…

Welcome to 1997! This is how Geocities, Tripod etc worked back then (I think geocities.ws has FTP access too, for the complete experience). Amazing to see the web coming full circle even on this.

Exactly my thoughts. And we all thought technology wasn't cyclical.

Re: Netlify Dev

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Post by kamkha »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #82
frosted-flakes wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, without their free tier they probably wouldn't be as big as they are today. It's the same model as freemium apps: get big, then start charging.

You justified a free tier but not why it's still free for one of the most trafficked websites in the world. ;)

Their free tier has a 100GB/month bandwidth cap — surely the most trafficked websites in the world would very quickly hit that limit, no?

Your point stands nonetheless — they could certainly be losing money on certain large users of their free tier. Serving relatively static content has gotten extremely cheap across the board, though, and like the parent said, they might be benefiting from the pricing by more indirect means.

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