There's a live feed of the Ecuadorian Embassy -- I don't remember this happening in the last few expel "scares" (for lack of a better word).
Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says
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#92> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…
There were all sorts of reports that he was a pretty taxing guest as well. Cleaning, hygiene, etc.
Ad hominem attacks; refuge of the lost.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clearly Manning is the most simpathetic of all mistreated 'leakers'. Truly, what does anyone gain by having her locked up?
I think the intent is to make life hard for whistleblowers to discourage others from doing the same.
And germany is thinking about creating laws to make the life of whistlelowers easier...
Just let that sink in..
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".
> I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. I don't think it's a matter of becoming partisan, I think it's more a matter of getting new opportunities for the orientation he's always had and pursued. > Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour". If you had an organization designed from it's inception to selectively leak informati…
>If you had an organization designed from it's inception to selectively leak information with a clearly biased perspective, it would defeat the purpose if you labeled it that way.
For some reason, The Intercept comes to mind, and people here just love em…
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#95How many years holed up in the embassy?
If he ends up serving jail time he won't get his sentence reduced for time spent in the embassy..
Perhaps would have been better off going to jail at the start.
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The guy considered himself some kind of anarchist once. I remember some big speech he had about his independence etc. Now after becoming a cheap tool for the FSB he turned into just another right-wing conspiracy troll on twitter and it's not just "US Democrats" who don't bother about him and his platform anymore. He's just not trustworthy. His platform is not trustworthy. His independence is broken. So why should Dem…
Clinton was predicted to be the next president by everyone. If you had to choose the target of your limited efforts the person who was projected at winning with 70% by the most conservative estimates, and had already turned the middle east into a charnel house, she would have been the one you should spend all your efforts on by any sane calculus. There should be a name for the mental disorder where you see one group…
So you deliberately chose to ignore the personal/conspiracy/bs dirt he was throwing all over the place even after the Clinton show was over?
I have no idea what you want to say with the second paragraph since even the 4-page summary confirms that the Russians did it.
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Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...
Clearly Manning is the most simpathetic of all mistreated 'leakers'. Truly, what does anyone gain by having her locked up?
She's not locked up for leaking, she's locked up for flagrant contempt in an active grand jury investigation, one which otherwise poses her no legal jeopardy, since she has both immunity and, for much of the subject matter, double jeopardy protection since she's been tried, convicted, and served her sentence for her involvement.
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I agree with free Snowden. But Manning and Assange had a history of leaking unredacted personal information that is indefensible. In the case of Manning, I might add that the leak didn’t show any major wrong doing. It illustrated some case of collateral damage, which we always knew (and the US military keeps public records of). It showed the underbelly of the US diplomacy, which turns out to be rather clean (some amb…
Manning revealed war crimes, yet the only person who went to prison was Manning. That's all we need to know really. The system is broken und unable to fix itself. Edit: Free Reality Winner
The system is not perfect, but the reason Manning went to jail is because she made an indiscriminate leak of secrets of which she did not review before she released them.
Had she only released material on stuff she had thought to be a crime, then there would have been a much stronger case to be made as a whistle blower.
It would be like if someone working at a hospital exposed a medical fraud scheme but leaked all the patient records of thousands of people who had nothing to do with scheme. They'd probably get hit with criminal HIPAA violations.
The reason Manning is in jail right now is because she refused to testify to a grand jury about WikiLeaks and got hit with contempt of court. She had been given immunity to testify so the jail time is purely on her.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...
"The judge said she will remain jailed until she testifies or until the grand jury concludes its work." Wow. Not even some specific number of months or anything. Appears not as a punishment but a blackmail. (edit: yes I miss the right word for this is, there is certainly a better one, I'd be happy to read a better one; edit2: right, extortion, thanks).
Its not a penal sentence, no; insofar as it is a pinishment it is a punishment for an ongoing offense, and continues as long as the offense continues.
And, blackmail is threatening to reveal a secret to get someone to comply, so, no, it's not that.
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#100> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…
I wonder if Ecuador didn’t see hosting him as a kind of insurance against being targeted by wikileaks.
Correa was a genuinely good person. There are a number of other ways he demonstrated this.