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Tesla’s First-Quarter Deliveries Plummet

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These kind of posts are good publicity right? I don't see any other car company we follow so closely on the market. Tesla is the only name I can see come up again and again here, and guess what, most people on HN are the actual population that is buying teslas.

I would love a Tesla if they were 50% cheaper. I used to think that the big car companies weren't able to bring a competitive EV to market because they were bigger than Tesla and bogged down in layers of management. Now I'm wondering if Tesla was just over marketed and overly ambitious entering the market and if these later entry EVs from main stream car companies in the next few years will be just as good at a fract…

I mean no luxury brand sells a car for $17.5k. I'm sure the entire world would go bananas if the Model 3 were priced at that...

Chevy has the Bolt out now at the same price as the SR+ Model 3, and it's absurd how bad the Bolt looks in comparison. The range is the same, but the exterior, performance, and charging capabilities are dramatically inferior to Model 3.

The only other competition debuting in the near future is the Nissan Leaf Plus, which costs more than the Model 3 SR, and has all the issues of the Bolt on top of the fact that its battery isn't even actively cooled, which is terrifying for battery longevity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love a Tesla if they were 50% cheaper. I used to think that the big car companies weren't able to bring a competitive EV to market because they were bigger than Tesla and bogged down in layers of management. Now I'm wondering if Tesla was just over marketed and overly ambitious entering the market and if these later entry EVs from main stream car companies in the next few years will be just as good at a fract…

I'm not sure why i'm jumping into this thread, but 50% cheaper!? You want a brand new electric car for $17.5k USD? Even the cheapest ICE cars sold in the US have trouble hitting that number... That just seems like a completely unreasonably high bar to hold EVs to at this point since things like batteries are so much more expensive than an ICE engine.

A quick search on cars.com reveals 1,700 new cars within 50 miles of my zip code for under $15,000.

I agree that a decent EV for that price is just not practical yet, but cheap ICE cars have no trouble hitting it.

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These kind of posts are good publicity right? I don't see any other car company we follow so closely on the market. Tesla is the only name I can see come up again and again here, and guess what, most people on HN are the actual population that is buying teslas.

Other car companies aren't VC-funded California-based startups run by maverick tech billionaires who want to go to the moon. And I can't imagine anyone on here is either unaware of Tesla and its selling points or more likely to buy one after reading a story about Tesla having delivery issues.

Tesla gets just as many posts and upvotes when it has actual good news.

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Pre-market is... not looking very understanding this morning for $TSLA, to say the least.

If you look at the bigger picture, it's lost about one week of gains and it's been rising and falling 10% for a while now

It does often seem that any news report about TSLA "soaring" or "plummeting" turns out to really just be a small'ish osscilation. At this point I tend to take most of these with a grain of salt.

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These kind of posts are good publicity right? I don't see any other car company we follow so closely on the market. Tesla is the only name I can see come up again and again here, and guess what, most people on HN are the actual population that is buying teslas.

> most people on HN are the actual population that is buying teslas You overestimate how many people here are willing to shell out those amounts of money for vehicle, and how practical it actually is. Yes, it is a future and whatnot and a lot of cool tech. But for say 20k euro I can have 5 year old BMW 3-er wagon. Yes, not new car, but I get 95% of the car for 1/3-1/4 of the cost. Much better fun to drive (I care muc…

In sorta-rich places like Washington, DC, they’re all over the place.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love a Tesla if they were 50% cheaper. I used to think that the big car companies weren't able to bring a competitive EV to market because they were bigger than Tesla and bogged down in layers of management. Now I'm wondering if Tesla was just over marketed and overly ambitious entering the market and if these later entry EVs from main stream car companies in the next few years will be just as good at a fract…

I'm not sure why i'm jumping into this thread, but 50% cheaper!? You want a brand new electric car for $17.5k USD? Even the cheapest ICE cars sold in the US have trouble hitting that number... That just seems like a completely unreasonably high bar to hold EVs to at this point since things like batteries are so much more expensive than an ICE engine.

My parents' 2016 Leaf (last gen) was about that price or less after utility price cut ($10k off) and tax credit.

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> most people on HN are the actual population that is buying teslas You overestimate how many people here are willing to shell out those amounts of money for vehicle, and how practical it actually is. Yes, it is a future and whatnot and a lot of cool tech. But for say 20k euro I can have 5 year old BMW 3-er wagon. Yes, not new car, but I get 95% of the car for 1/3-1/4 of the cost. Much better fun to drive (I care muc…

In sorta-rich places like Washington, DC, they’re all over the place.

I live in Cambridge MA and see them everywhere, including pulling into my building's parking deck. Even X's!

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Interesting tweet shows lots of Tesla's sitting in inventory after being rejected by customers or other problems. https://twitter.com/Latrilife/status/1113799586567426049

Looks like that entire account is dedicated to attacking Tesla. Can we believe it?

As opposed to the hundreds astroturfing and greenwahing them? In a war of ideas, give everyone ammo. The truth is never exclusive to one view.
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