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Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I have over a thousand notes in Evernote. One day I noticed that one was missing shortly after I created it. Eventually I discovered that the convenient new-note shortcut was failing every time with a database corruption error - but the error only appeared in a system log I was unaware of. There was no indication to the user that the notes were failing. To this day I have no idea how many notes I lost due to this bug…

OneNote. It’s free on all platforms and handles your listed requirements.

This! Once Microsoft bundles something that has 80% of what people want, you need to get far ahead on the innovation curve. (Though I will never understand why the formatting gets messed up when copying pasting from OneNote to Outlook)

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a guy pitching a location based notes app years ago one morning on CNBC. I believe it was called "Acorns" (not the investment app). I was super hyped for it. Would mean the wife could just jot a note about grocery items at any point during the week and I'd get an alert whenever I got to the grocery store. Brilliant. No "don't forget milk" texts, which I forget because it's not on my actual list. But it never la…

I use google keep, it has time and location based reminders. I think there is even an option to create shared note with your SO edit: yes it works :D I managed to share a note with my gf and she sees it. Now she tried to set up a reminder that will ring my phone when either of us gets close a certain groccery store that we visit

OMG! I didn't know about the location reminder, and now I will be using it all the time.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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I haven't seen too many people mentioning the onslaught of Microsoft One Note in developing a great note-taking tool, that syncs well in the cloud, and integrates with several of their other tools like Word and Outlook. Personallly, as a early Evernote User, once One Note came out for Mac, I switched. And then getting a job somewhere where we used Windows PCs, just solidified it for me, and I never found the need to…

The moment I switched from Evernote to Onenote was the time EN screwed up the formatting of one of my very important ornate lists. To make things worse, through an unlucky combination of keystrokes I deleted everything I had in my note, only to find that version control was a Premium feature of Evernote. I promptly used the free "Recommend to a friend" 1 month trial to recover my note and used the importer to move ev…

Look at this thread on the Evernote user forum. It's been running from 2013 to 2018 about how Evernote handles list formatting. https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/41948-why-is-formattin...

If this just worked, if they could just make it so I can copy a bulleted list in Evernote and paste it somewhere else without the formatting going bananas, I would have stuck with it.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Yea...I don’t understand anything Evernote has done that’s new since I’ve been using them. I also never understood why they charge based on upload volume vs total storage, say 1000 notes or pictures, like every other storage provider, or don’t fix the syncing errors. Like others have mentioned I’ve never had syncing errors with google drive or box or Dropbox like I’ve had with Evernote.

> I also never understood why they charge based on upload volume vs total storage, say 1000 notes or pictures, like every other storage provider

Every other storage provider charges you by the number of files you store, not their size? Really?

Considering the kicking Flickr got for their 1000 image free limit, that’s…interesting.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In emacs (where I do 100% of my work), I press a single key combination, make the note, then go right back to work.

What do you do about ideas you think of when you're not at a computer? Or when you're at a computer that doesn't have access to the network you usually store notes on?

press a single key combination, of course! but in vim!

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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The problem with both Dropbox and Evernote is that their minimum pricing tier is too expensive for what they provide - particularly when both functions are provided as part of the Microsoft Office package with is the same price as Dropbox alone. I used both for years and would have happily paid a couple of dollars a month as I do for the basic tier of Google Drive. I abandoned both when the 2 device limit came in.

This. Office 365 package provides full office suit + 1TB of storage + 50GB ad-free mail box for the same price and they are already profitable at this price tag. If you are an startup offering any service more expensive than office 365 you are doing something really wrong.

A lot of startups price themselves out of the competition simply by believe the nonsense concept of pricing based on "value" == charge users more than they really should.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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post #42

Due to some weird bug in Evernote, I lost about 10% of all my notes. Some of them critical. This happened about a year ago, and I never found out the actual cause. I think it was some kind of bug triggered by the combination of syncing from/to the mobile app and the desktop app. But I completely stopped trusting Evernote after this and stopped using it.

I had a similar issue, and moved away from it. I had been becoming heavily invested-

It's unfortunate, but they -need- sync to be 100%. 99.99% is worse than 0% :(

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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Am I the only one just using the stock MacOs Notes and Reminders? Does the trick for me. Never lost a thing. Does pictures and text and has basic grouping. Mac only of course.

Probably. I love my Mac, but I don't use any of their apps.

I also use notes and reminders. They're simple and reliable and I can easily add reminders via Siri. I've tried OneNote, Evernote, and I've paid for reminders apps but they're all unnecessarily complicated for my needs. I found myself spending too much time trying to figure out how to use the third party apps most effectively and fiddling with configuration. Finally realized that simpler is better for my needs.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential

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>However, the real brilliance of Evernote was its search functionality

I'm surprised this is supposed to be a selling point. Search has rarely found what I am looking for and I almost always have to go hunt for the note I am looking for manually. I've even been known to export all my notes as plain text files and use an external program (even the OS!) to search for something I'm looking for.

Frankly I've had so many many problems with Evernote. The synching is terrible. I can't tell you how many times I've been working on a lengthy note when it will try to synch and have a problem and it will trash everything I've written since the last synch and revert the note back to what it was before. This has happened to me so many times that I've started to write my notes in other apps and then copy and paste the text to Evernote when I am finished.

I've tried other note taking apps, but they all have problems of one sort of another. My ideal note app would have the following features:

* The ability to export all of the notes with the click of one button to plain text Markup files. Ideally any folder structure within the note app would be maintained and the notes would be zipped up and could be either saved locally or emailed to me. I have seen so many cloud services go up in flames suddenly that I have less than zero trust in cloud services. I want my data to be available in a format that I could easily move it to another service and I can back it up locally. Evernote doesn't really do this. This is the primary reason I only trust it for notes that I don't really care about. Anything really important I keep in other note apps that do let me easily export the notes. Unfortunately those other apps have other downsides that keep my coming back to Evernote.

* The note app can store notes of just about any size. I have some really really long notes that I don't want divided up among multiple notes. Evernotes doesn't appear to have a note size limit, I've found that most other note apps do have a limit that is far less than the length many of my notes already are.

* I want seamless and automatic synching across platforms. It needs to work well and not lose any of what I have typed (Evernote fails in this regard). I shouldn't have a ton of duplicate versions of my note with timestamps because the synching has gotten all out of wack (Evernote does this a lot).

* It should be easy to create a new note. This is basically Evernote's number one benefit from what I've experienced.

* It should be easy to create links between notes like a personal wiki. I have one (unfortunately no longer being developed) note taking app that excels at this. So far I haven't found how/if this is possible in Evernote. It's certainly not easily discoverable if it is possible.

* It should use Markup as the underlying formatting engine. This goes back to the first point about being able to export the notes in a non-propietary format.

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