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A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by gotocake »

mirimir wrote: post #54
fma wrote: post #40

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I read the same story from NY Times, which had a more detailed write up. She likely inherited the genes from her dad. "Likely" because they can't test her dad's genes since he's deceased. Her dad didn't really feel pain either, so growing up it was not that abnormal. Her son has a similar mutation but daughter doesn't. NY Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/health/woman-pain-anxiety...

Right. You're normal, and everyone else are just whingers. Reminds me of Ferro, in Abercrombie's First Law trilogy. She felt no pain. But she was not at all happy. More like always angry.

That was such an amazing series, and I found it had a lasting emotional impact. I still feel vaguely hurt and angry when I think about it!

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by projektir »

domnonymous wrote: post #86
ryanmarsh wrote: post #76

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She wanted to. By then I was tired of all the games. Not my thing.

Fair, fair. Serious talk, that sounds traumatizing. I've heard some similar stories from folks who did things for their partners, who didn't enjoy the things they were doing. It's weird because you feel like you're the responsible one; you're in control, holding the belt or whatever! But you're not really in control. You're the one pushing your boundaries, inexperienced and barely-willing, and probably completely unp…

I can't imagine how people would discover they may be into these things if the only way to have contact with it would be through the scene.

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by bashwizard »

We have a small village in Sweden that is known for roughly 40 cases of the same thing. They're basically made fun of because a lot of the village population are related so it could be a case of inbreeding among relatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_insensitivity_to_pa...

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by vekker »

ggggtez wrote: post #73
darepublic wrote: post #59

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Wouldn't it be more natural to say, you don't need nitrous oxide to achieve this, you can practice to manage chronic pain.

"Natural" is just a buzzword. People have eaten plants for medicinal purposes since pre-historic times. Why should we shy away from advances in medicine and force the patients to re-wire their brains instead? Meditation is unnatural. The natural thing is to experience pain when something painful happens.

Meditators still experience pain. They just train to "objectively" observe pain as pain, without creating more resistance - i.e. avoiding the "second arrow" https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn36/sn36.006.th...

IMHO there is currently no way to re-program your mind like that with external means.

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by ivanhoe »

Sounds horrible actually, just imagine living with all those little risks of hurting yourself everyday. I remember I was amazed when ophthalmologist warned me not to touch my eyes 30 mins after the eye examination because anesthetics numb the sensation enough that you can accidentally cause the cornea abrasion without noticing it. This is like it, but applied to your whole body for whole life.

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by mirimir »

gotocake wrote: post #91
mirimir wrote: post #54

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Right. You're normal, and everyone else are just whingers. Reminds me of Ferro, in Abercrombie's First Law trilogy. She felt no pain. But she was not at all happy. More like always angry.

That was such an amazing series, and I found it had a lasting emotional impact. I still feel vaguely hurt and angry when I think about it!

Same here. I've read that, on one level, it's a satire on the Ring Trilogy. It's almost pure tragedy (with issues resolved through destruction) but has some very sweet comedy (with issues resolved through friendship and marriage).

And there are virtually no pure heroes or villains. I mean, he gets you feeling sympathetic with an expert torturer. And with a bunch of more-or-less psychotic marauders. Because he gets to to understand what's shaped them. What they've been through. And as well, it's loaded with great fight sequences.

If you haven't read his other books in that world, I highly recommend it. There's one that's largely about Logen.

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by fb03 »

ZeroFries wrote: post #26
fb03 wrote: post #19

Having no pain, okay. But having no anxiety? wow, that sounds like true heaven to anxious me.

You would think the same about pain if you were in chronic, debilitating pain.

I have chronic pain. I hate that it makes my anxiety even worse and it's anxiety what really burdens me the most (feeling nonfunctional, feeling anxious, having panic attacks or triggers)

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by acct1771 »

HillaryBriss wrote: post #58

Pain free I believe, but I call bullshit on this part of the story: "When he found I hadn't had any, he checked my medical history and found I had never asked for painkillers." Ha!! Like you can just "check someone's medical history." Yeah right! As if that history were in a single, easily queried database or something! Everyone knows real human medical histories are spread out over thousands of dog-eared pages hangi…

The East or West coast of US?

Re: A woman who doesn't feel pain

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Post by dredmorbius »

projektir wrote: post #90
dredmorbius wrote: post #79

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Having appropriate responses to stimuli is vastly more useful.

Often increasing anxiety is very much the appropriate response to one's experiences, but still not a useful one.

Somewhat tautological, but I equate "useful" and "appropriate". Anxiety can be useful (if it's not crippling), and is certainly understandable. But if it is debilitating, it's not particularly useful, and hence, is inappropriate.
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