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Why Bother with What Three Words?

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Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#91
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Why don't you just make an open alternative is this is so disconcerting to you?

Google maps now includes plus codes which are open so I don't think W3W stands a chance anyway. Not should they. It's an idea you can implement in half an hour. It doesn't need to be a commercial business.

I'd still rather remember/type/say three words than something like 5P56+4Q. I'm really surprised that no one thinks pronounciability has value.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#92

Our office location had a square named: [boom,bedroom,gagging]

I guess that's exactly what they are after: funny (or otherwise "engaging") three word combinations that are: (a) easy to remember, and (b) promote their service. - the default square when looking up the town i live in is leber.abhilfe.schnell (german), translated "liver, relief, quick", so maybe that's what their algorithm is optimized for? Either way, the whole system seems pretty stupid: why 3x3m (way to high res…

>location data is usually not shared verbally but sent via some kind of text medium - you just send GPS-coordinates from another (map-)app directly through your email/messaging-app. seems simple enough.

So in one setting I have to email myself a link to get the map on another device. In the other I just type three words from one screen into my phone.

I wonder which one's more convenient.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#93

I inherited a property management system where previous developers used what3words for storing location of homes (since reverse geocoding based on address is not reliable in some countries we support). However, after an internal review we realised that a lot of our UK properties have locations in Asia or the US... It turned out that typos in what3words often result in a valid location on the other side of the world.…

The behaviour you're describing is actually supposed to be a feature. They call it "Error detection" on https://what3words.com/about, which apparently it's not.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#94
The startup I'm working with offers a much better solution. We call it a geohash phrase. Instead of three random words, where plurals and order matter, instead we map geohashs to 5-word tuples that easily form a phrase. Moreover, the words will only ever appear in one slot of the tuple, and pluralization and word order don't matter.

You can find more at our website: qalocate.com

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#95
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many bits do you think it takes to precisely indicate a location on the surface of the earth? If you are using 2 angles, I guess the place to start is with the circumference of the earth, which is 40 million meters. So to get within a meter, you then need to encode your angle with enough precision to indicate a single one of the 40 million possibilities.

Ummm. That's what latitude and longitude are. Angles. Or equivalently, radians. And what's magic about one meter? Latitude and longitude can be arbitrarily precise. But whatever. You want 40 million? Well, 360 degrees / 40 million ~ 10^-5. That's easily handled by "43.63872, -116.24135".

Yes, it seemed you were arguing those two numbers could easily be encoded using existing words.

If you want to make gibberish word like objects it's probably possible.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#98

Mostly off topic: I would like a URL shortener that uses a similar system so that instead of giving me small.url/b3DmQ it would be small.url/MouseHatDoor because I will sometimes share a link with my students and there is always one student who can't get it to work because they type it wrong or something. I can send them the link through a course announcement but it is more convenient to put a short url on screen and…

http://yellkey.com is designed for exactly this use case, and is near-exact clone of the now defunct http://shoutkey.com that was prevalent at our school for this. It provides single-word short URLs that expire after 24 hours, which is fine in practice for any in-person use case.

nice. I have looked for url shorteners but didn't find this one. thanks!

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your solution won't result in "coordinates" easily memorized by humans or easily translated to the very vast majority of map implementations?

Not sure how you got that from what I typed. The fact is the 4 coordinates (two numeric, two with the stupid "N/S/E/W" corresponding with traditional), decimal points, and reverse order from an X,Y coordinate system, are hardly easy to memorize. They're next to impossible to memorize. What part of pencil and paper didn't come across?

Perhaps an example would have helped. With numeric coordinates relative orientation is fairly intuitive. It's simple arithmetic. How does your proposed system replicate that?
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