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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by oblio »

ElBarto wrote: post #71
oblio wrote: post #66

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In practice, that's a useless tidbit. Would you rather be the average South Korean or the average North Korean? Their lives are completely different, those are different states for a reason.

That's not useless at all, that's very important and that's the point. Ask Chinese, ask Koreans. Also ask Germans or Vietnamese. You could also ask Foxcomm's founder.

Ok, let's clarify in the context of our topic: why would Foxconn's founder send data to the RPC government? Just because the Taiwanese are primarily ethnic Han?

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by ksec »

I think and assume part of the process, some Nokia Phones which were only meant to sold in China, or Software that were only meant to be installed in China's version of Nokia got muddled up into International version.

If you have been following the Nokia's Android phone, you will know they have always been launching new phones in China first before making slight update or shipping exactly the same one to International Market. So it could happen this is part of the logistics and Supply Chain mistep. I am giving Nokia the benefits of doubt here. Since HMD do have many original Nokia employees, it could be an oversight.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by punnerud »

nuclx wrote: post #29
gvand wrote: post #21

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I wonder how often this kind of comments fall through the cracks like this. Happened to me too with something privacy related about one of the big Corps that then was noticed by everyone else a few weeks later... I agree with others, better open a "Tell HN" in this cases.

Happens with a lot of posts, if they don't reach a critical mass of upvotes early on. In this case probably nobody could verify, if the claims were correct.

There is a new feature on HN these days to fix this: If a post get upvotes later, it will often be given a second chance to ‘try to shine’ to the front page.

With this comment I think it was to hard for people to understand in the first place.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by mattlondon »

FWIW, I have a recently purchased Nokia 7.1 which is part of the Android One scheme (running Android Pie). This was through a legit high-stret UK retailer so not grey-import or anything.

I installed NoRoot Firewall as suggested in another comment here. So far NoRoot Firewall has not detected any activity from anything unusual running in the background (either idle, screen-on, or charging).

What was weird though was that if I open the Nokia camera app, it tries to talk to edge-star-shv-01-lhr-facebook.com, edge-star-mini-shv-01-sof1.facebook.com & edge-star-shv-01-sof1.facebook.com. I believe this is due to the facebook live-broadcasting feature built into the Nokia camera app, although I have not got it logged in so not sure why it is phoning home just when I open the app.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by Already__Taken »

4thaccount wrote: post #83
eknkc wrote: post #56

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Yeah, I recently switched from iPhone to Samsung Galaxy S10. I don't have a previous experience so my reasoning was "well it's Samsung, at worst they'll have some shitty branded apps and some cruft". But I don't have an idea what these dozens of preinstalled apps running on my phone doing. Almost none of them can be uninstalled and only a handful can be disabled. It is kind of scary to use a banking app on this thing…

Ever try the phones from Google with pretty much nothing pre-installed? It is a much better experience, but yes Android is still proper shit in some ways. In others it has come so far. I never have to restart my phone like I had to for my Galaxy S1 every day.

I got a nokia because it's as close to pure android without a super expensive google phone and here we are...

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by aloer »

phh wrote: post #55

Please don't assume this is a one-time event, or that it is specific to this brand or even to Chinese manufacturers. Nokia could actually be in the best half on that aspect, just got unlucky. Most of such info leaks are hidden. I've already witnessed several OEM firmwares sending informations to many different parties. Too often, this is done through http, with payload encrypted. But it's always symmetrical encryptio…

> On Samsung Galaxy S9+ simply listing apps that can install apps silently (which is the master of all permissions

Wait... what? Why is there such a permission in the first place?

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by ahakki »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #63
duiker101 wrote: post #33

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Your title wasn't really great honestly, unfortunately this community is often based first impressions.

Or more bluntly: click bait wins. Now you don’t get away with taboola style headlines here, they have to be more sophisticated, but they need to grab interest.

I got most of my karma through «clickbait» stuff. If you manage to post something like the Apple annual report, you can get a million free points basically. You just gotta be quick.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Post by arsenico »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #64
eknkc wrote: post #56

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Yeah, I recently switched from iPhone to Samsung Galaxy S10. I don't have a previous experience so my reasoning was "well it's Samsung, at worst they'll have some shitty branded apps and some cruft". But I don't have an idea what these dozens of preinstalled apps running on my phone doing. Almost none of them can be uninstalled and only a handful can be disabled. It is kind of scary to use a banking app on this thing…

This is exactly why I am back on iPhone. I have had enough of unremovable shitware. I also value the simplicity of getting basic things done such as Bluetooth pairing. Stuff seems easier. The only thing slightly worse on iPhone is google 2fa, because it needs to use the gmail app.

> google 2fa, because it needs to use the gmail app you mean the Google app, right? Not the GMail one.
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