pls someone invite me - i don't do social networks
Volk Fi: Distributed network smartphone
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#92pls someone invite me
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#93This makes a bit more sense: "Every Volk phone has a SIM card slot and supports use on traditional LTE networks. However, a SIM is not necessary and the phone will always prioritize the Volk network first. The Volk network works as such: every Volk user gets a special router with their phone. The router acts as a wireless Qi charging pad also. The router connects to your existing internet via Ethernet or something si…
The frequencies are what I was curious about as well. To have a half mile range at relatively low powers it would need to be a low frequency band. I'm guessing they haven't bought licenses from the FCC, so my bet is that they're using the 900 MHz ISM band. There's only 26 MHz of spectrum in that band, which isn't much, particularly for a mesh setup that won't be particularly spectrally efficient. Even with a high 30…
My real world wifi experience. Domestic 2.4ghz wifi ap with a directional antenna plugged in, 600m direct line of sight across valley to neighbours netgear ap with stock antenna, assumed in his window. Internet achieved. Wifi ap, stock antenna in my house window, looking unobstructed over field, I get wifi internet on my phone about 200m out. Indoors in my stone walled house wifi is perhaps 10-15m. So half a mile range or 600m is almost true in a marketing sense though a bit dishonest in a real world usage sense.
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#94I'd happily put a large omnidirectional wifi antenna on my roof to help out with something like this.... if I could get a fair rate for the bandwidth used. My city has 70k people or so, and is perfectly flat. Similarly I'd be willing to help with any p2p type wireless, with a radio, antenna, and raspberry Pi or similar. Sadly most p2p wireless internet gateways are proprietary.
I've always wondered about this as well. Get independent hobbyists to setup micro wifi networks. Run all traffic through a vpn or some sort so the operator doesn't risk their IP/ISP banning their service. Monetize the whole thing on a pay as you go service. $1/gb and give 70 cents of that to the independent operators. The big telecoms already have these little mini-wifi networks in bigger cities that you can get acce…
There's things like https://www.nycmesh.net/, https://tomesh.net/ and a bunch of others I can't find right now.
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#95I'd happily put a large omnidirectional wifi antenna on my roof to help out with something like this.... if I could get a fair rate for the bandwidth used. My city has 70k people or so, and is perfectly flat. Similarly I'd be willing to help with any p2p type wireless, with a radio, antenna, and raspberry Pi or similar. Sadly most p2p wireless internet gateways are proprietary.
I've always wondered about this as well. Get independent hobbyists to setup micro wifi networks. Run all traffic through a vpn or some sort so the operator doesn't risk their IP/ISP banning their service. Monetize the whole thing on a pay as you go service. $1/gb and give 70 cents of that to the independent operators. The big telecoms already have these little mini-wifi networks in bigger cities that you can get acce…
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always wondered about this as well. Get independent hobbyists to setup micro wifi networks. Run all traffic through a vpn or some sort so the operator doesn't risk their IP/ISP banning their service. Monetize the whole thing on a pay as you go service. $1/gb and give 70 cents of that to the independent operators. The big telecoms already have these little mini-wifi networks in bigger cities that you can get acce…
I pay $0.05 per GB or so at home ($60 per TB). I'd happily sell my data at a small profit just to offset whatever the equipment is that's required. Someone else on this thread mentioned gotenna, which seemed like a similarly cool idea. Unfortunately they rejected the idea of allowing gotenna internet gotenna via a gateway I offered to write. They already have a unique id per device and I was going to use a DHT to all…
This would be a great feature for gotenna. Especially if places near where you would be using a gotenna have internet access.
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#97I don’t get the invite model. Ask someone already invited to send you an invite? I guess it prevents spam reservations but I don’t have Facebook or twitter, so I guess I’m out of luck.
I was also curious, and found https://volkfi.com/whyinvite which has a constructive sounding heading > Why is Volk Fi invite-only followed by blather blather about the technology and then finally some invite-sounding text of > But, because Volk Fi is crowdsourced, it needs a certain user density in order to have full coverage and reliability which seems to run directly in contradiction to why one would want the syste…
Proximity is important. They want people to invite their friends, who are more likely to live near each other than a random person on the internet. They need density, not just users.
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#98There will be serious security concerns with this, opening so many possibilities for Man in the Middle attack.
Just encrypt everything in transit ?
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#99I like the idea, but I'm not sure how the abuse will work on those networks. There are two possible cases: 1. Volk data goes out via their gateway (proxied): They get access to your data. Their IPs get CloudFlare captchas all the time. (Like tor) 2. Volk data goes out from your router: You get to explain the CP access from your network. Your home IP gets CloudFlare captchas all the time. You get to monitor random peo…
>Their IPs get CloudFlare captchas all the time. (Like tor)
This doesn’t seem to be a that much of a problem with commercial VPN providers. Maybe the good actors outnumber the bad actors?
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#100I would love to see a version for amateur radio that uses amateur bands with more power. It would of course need to be un-encrypted but that is fine with me.