Live data from Hacker News

Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

nytimes.com

91–100 of 168 posts

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#91
post #59

> The start-up world projects a meritocratic image, but in reality, it is a small, tightknit club where success typically hinges on whom you know. This is...so not true. My co-founder and I had hardly any network in SV. We applied to YC through the website, raised seed money after demo day. We ran on seed + revenue up to about 60 employees and we recently did a series A. If you don’t have a network, don’t be dissuade…

People like to traffic in hyperbole, because nuance burns calories and doesn't attract as many eyeballs. Some describe tech as a perfect meritocracy, which of course it is not. The overreaction to that is to claim startup success merely comes down to who you know. Of course that's not true either. As far as industries go -- especially industries capable of producing millionaires, billionaires, and world-changing phen…

> tech is absurdly high on the meritocratic scale.

While I generally agree with this, I think the reason is that success is mainly determined by how much customers like something. It's certainly not due to a lack of folks waiting around to try to take advantage of founders at every conceivable opportunity.

And with respect to VC firms, most don't even list their email addresses on their websites, and of the ones who do a lot of them openly brag about deleting every single email that doesn't come with an introduction. Many won't even tell you what industries or stage they focus on.

If venture capitalists are tired of getting shit on in the media in a way that dentists or accountants or whatever aren't, then maybe they should exhibit the same baseline professionalism as is expected in every other industry.

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#92

> The start-up world projects a meritocratic image, but in reality, it is a small, tightknit club where success typically hinges on whom you know. This is...so not true. My co-founder and I had hardly any network in SV. We applied to YC through the website, raised seed money after demo day. We ran on seed + revenue up to about 60 employees and we recently did a series A. If you don’t have a network, don’t be dissuade…

If it’s “so not true” that it’s “who you know” then you have to use a better anecdotal example.

You literally just said YC took you in and gave you a demo day where they invited everyone. You didn’t do that, YC did. YC takes very few people out of those who apply. So instead of being a counterexample, you just provided a great example. They are a well regarded network and gave you an in to the rest of the networks! Could someone who DIDN’T get into YC achieve the same thing just as easily, getting all those employees and Series A, or would they limp along on angel funding?

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#93
post #83
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you stepped right into it. You need a TON of permits to open a restaurant and you can not open in your house, it has to be in a commercial space. Furthermore, you are free to open your own hotel. You just need to do it in a commercial zoned area since you are doing commercial things.

Technology has always outrun regulation. It’s not any different in these cases. Regulators will catch up as they always have. This, truly, is how progress has been made since the dawn of time. You’re taking the same position people took against the printing press, automobiles, and computers when they were all in their infancy. Restaurants in people’s homes were incredibly common until health regulators showed up.

Yeah, I wonder why.

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#94
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New York Times has had a consistently anti-tech slant the last few years. I don’t know the reason for it, but I find it very annoying

> New York Times has had a consistently anti-tech slant the last few years. Let's be real. Tech has had a consistently anti-tech slant the last few years.

[deleted]

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#95
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technology has always outrun regulation. It’s not any different in these cases. Regulators will catch up as they always have. This, truly, is how progress has been made since the dawn of time. You’re taking the same position people took against the printing press, automobiles, and computers when they were all in their infancy. Restaurants in people’s homes were incredibly common until health regulators showed up.

Yeah, I wonder why.

some regulation is useful

I wonder if RCO8786 would eat at a small family owned restaurant with a low health score.

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#96
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technology has always outrun regulation. It’s not any different in these cases. Regulators will catch up as they always have. This, truly, is how progress has been made since the dawn of time. You’re taking the same position people took against the printing press, automobiles, and computers when they were all in their infancy. Restaurants in people’s homes were incredibly common until health regulators showed up.

Yeah, I wonder why.

I don’t follow your comment, though it seems pretty sarcastic.

How do you suggest that it works? How do you propose that we regulate innovation before the innovation occurs? Bit difficult, no?

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most newspapers have a clear division between the editorial and money-making parts. Journalists look down on the advertising and classifieds departments. The consider it beneath their worthiness. If you think they're hiring because they give a shit about the lowlies who pay to keep the lights on, you haven't worked in the trade.

True, you don't need to go out hiring journalists who have an anti-tech stance. But does anyone think print journalists haven't noticed their industry is fucked and loads of people are getting laid off? No need to break the firewall between editorial and ad sales to know that Gannett cut 400 jobs in January, McClatchy cut 450 jobs in February, BuzzFeed cut 200 jobs in January, and so on.

> True, you don't need to go out hiring journalists who have an anti-tech stance.

Reporting on shitty behaviour by tech companies isn't an anti-tech stance. It's reporting. If what you want is PR puff pieces and sloppy butt-kissing, Wired has the pro-tech angle well covered.

I mean do you actually think it's an interview question at the Times? "Tell me how much you hate Google, in words of three syllables or less". This is a literal conspiracy theory, and it's embarrassing.

Everyone hates journalists, who aren't used to dealing with them. Everyone feels victimised when it's their turn. I've seen it more than once. Hell, I've been on the receiving end of shitty coverage. But it wasn't an agenda any more complex than "does this make a good story?"

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#98
post #85
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The media has a lot to lose in a tech-dominated world. They used to have a monopoly on reach. Readers came to directly to them. Today that role belongs largely to tech companies. Media companies are heavily dependent on the algorithms and whims of the likes of Google, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and Amazon. And it's not just distribution: it's their business models, too. Apple taking a cut of NYC subscription revenue,…

Maybe... but I’ve noticed this far more at NYT than other newspapers

Which doubly counters csallen's claims because the NYT is doing just fine (they're publicly traded).

If anything, the majors (NYT, Guardian, The Economist, WSJ) have a lot to gain when local journalism dies because of technology.

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#99
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New York Times has had a consistently anti-tech slant the last few years. I don’t know the reason for it, but I find it very annoying

Tech is - inadvertently, as a side effect, but still - murdering the traditional media world that NYT rules/ruled. When your whole world is being destroyed around you, it's not that strange if you develop a hostile attitude to the people doing the destroying, even if your job description is to be an "objective journalist".

But, corporately, NYT wants the journalism world around it destroyed. They're the best situated to benefit from it. Their stock price shows that there's no concern for their future.

Re: Uber and Airbnb Alumni Fuel Tech’s Next Wave

#100
post #62
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New York Times has had a consistently anti-tech slant the last few years. I don’t know the reason for it, but I find it very annoying

The media has a lot to lose in a tech-dominated world. They used to have a monopoly on reach. Readers came to directly to them. Today that role belongs largely to tech companies. Media companies are heavily dependent on the algorithms and whims of the likes of Google, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and Amazon. And it's not just distribution: it's their business models, too. Apple taking a cut of NYC subscription revenue,…

> The media has a lot to lose in a tech-dominated world.

True, but the NYT was actually one of the first to try and move past their print origins and try a new business model.

https://mashable.com/2014/05/16/full-new-york-times-innovati...

They also employed Mike Bostocks (author of d3.js) for a while, and they had a highly regarded interactive section.

https://bost.ocks.org/mike/

Tech has been a public boogeyman for a long time. Tech causes everything from global warming to cancer.

Post reply on HN