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Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

dragonwriter wrote: post #62
indigodaddy wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yang is going to gain steam. Might give Kamala a run for her money. I recommend you check out the Joe Rogan interview.

> Yang is going to gain steam. Might give Kamala a run for her money. While it's extremely early (though in most recent elections, the eventual primary winner was at this point in first or second place, more often second), Harris is only polling third (consistently, across polls) and is way behind Biden (first) and Sanders (second, so arguably the most likely nominee).

>Sanders (second, so arguably the most likely nominee).

I wonderfully interested that you think the DNC would allow that to happen after just two year of being shown explicitly that they will do whatever is needed to make sure that does not happen.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dvtrn »

dragonwriter wrote: post #81
charliesharding wrote: post #68

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But he's not just nice.. He's pretty, played in a band, and is exceptionally good at hand waving. In debate he masterfully dodges substantive discussion in favor of vast, inclusive, amorphous nicety rhetoric. Unfortunately however, he may be too white and male to appease his party's intersectional hierarchy.

> Unfortunately however, he may be too white and male to appease his party's intersectional hierarchy. Given that the top two Democratic candidates for 2020 by current polling are Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, I don't think there's much reason to think that being white or male is a huge disadvantage. His thin resume, OTOH...

Interested voter here, Illinois 4th Congressional District, could I get a link to your polling data?

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by reitanqild »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #13
zinclozenge wrote: post #5

I hope nobody uncovers the naruto fan fiction I wrote in my teens when I run for political office.

You joke about it, but it is kind of scary that some obscure tweet or facebook post one did in their teens might be used against them when running for (whatever) public office...

It's even worse it seems: last year showed us people will manufacture accusations out of thin air, leaving you to try to defend yourself using whatever is left of your diaries and planners from 40 years ago.

Someone, I guess here on HN quoted something along the lines of: "the more noble the goal is the less the truth matters" (I'd like to know the original quote but I didn't write it down and now I vannot find it.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dmos62 »

busterarm wrote: post #79

Having been involved in the community for most of my life, my very first thought was "oh that's cool he's one of us" and then I remembered that historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to.

> historically hackers have been phenomenally bad people to give any kind of real power to

Do you have any examples?

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by dpratt »

Brakenshire wrote: post #71
Fej wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's in the UK. Such a law would run afoul of the First Amendment in the US.

Do texts that contain bomb-making information really fall under the first amendment in the US?

Of course it does, and it would be a fundamental insult to the history and legacy of Western culture if it wasn’t protected speech.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by Varcht »

blang wrote: post #54
shereadsthenews wrote: post #4

If anyone can show that Beto has a hard copy of the Anarchists' Cookbook I'll vote for him twice.

What if he had the digital copy, stored on floppy disk?

Then he is some compression wizard too!

Edit: I guess that could be read as plural...

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by braythwayt »

mikeash wrote: post #70
Kurtz79 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You joke about it, but it is kind of scary that some obscure tweet or facebook post one did in their teens might be used against them when running for (whatever) public office...

We’re in a weird transition period where all this information is now available but we’re not used to it yet. The illusion that people had a clean past is still prevalent. I suspect that in another decade or two, we’ll finally internalize the fact that everybody does stupid crap and nobody will care about it anymore.

I'd like to think so, but when I look at the disparity between how society treats the mistakes of one class of people ("He was no angel, he stole a cigar"), and another class of people ("Standard freshman behaviour, and besides, what is 'consent' anyways?")...

My fear is that more transparency will simply widen the disparity in treatment, because there will be more ammunition to use against the weak, while the strong are protected from accountability no matter what is dug up from their past.

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Major edit: This is why I am an advocate for privacy, rather than radical transparency. I think a level playing field is a prerequisite for transparency.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by xxpor »

jjuel wrote: post #28
Kurtz79 wrote: post #13

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You joke about it, but it is kind of scary that some obscure tweet or facebook post one did in their teens might be used against them when running for (whatever) public office...

I mean just look at what happened to some professional athletes. They get tweets dug up from when they were like 14.

The fact that their agents aren't forcing them to delete everything from before they were adults or even making a brand new account is malpractice at this point IMO.

Re: Beto O'Rourke's membership in America's oldest hacking group

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Post by striking »

Brakenshire wrote: post #71
Fej wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's in the UK. Such a law would run afoul of the First Amendment in the US.

Do texts that contain bomb-making information really fall under the first amendment in the US?

IANAL, but I don't see anything like that here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce.... So, decent chance it's protected speech.
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