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The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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This tweet is the exact reason I choose to live in the UK, and not the US, when it came to pursuing my career in financial services.

I do not believe that the US approach—in many sectors, but particularly in finance—of putting your career before your family life is a good use of the unknown and limited time we have on this planet.

That said, I am an entrepreneur, and the buck stops with me, so if I need to work weekends than I will juggle that obligation while still being there for my son.

Part of my reason for this approach is based on what my father once told me, that in life you'll juggle a lot of important balls, your career ball, your family ball, your health ball etc. The gist was, life is a juggling act, but his final word on it was something along the lines of, "Your family ball is made of glass, and if you drop it, it could shatter so much that you will never be able to piece it together again."

Obviously what is happening in an employee's life will have an impact on their work life. Saying things like, "if you miss your KPIs than you're fired" isn't going to motivate your staff, especially the ones who need to up their performance. Firing people who don't perform creates a situation where staff members will live under fear and that doesn't usually create great customer experiences.

And this leads to another point, if you are a good leader, you should never be in a position where you need to remind people that they need to work weekends if they are behind or they will get fired. He’s the CEO, the buck stops with him. If he communicated the problem they are solving, the company’s mission, and put in the right culture, hired the right people, you don’t need to say such things.

IMHO a good ‘Culture’ would have the following values:

1. Spartan Wall – We win the battle for our customers by protecting/taking care of each other.

2. Obsessive Customer Empathy – We are our customers’ biggest advocate.

3. Unfiltered Brutal Truth – Feelings, rank, politics NEVER have priority over truth and what’s right.

4. Proactive Problem Solving – When we hit problems, we do not put our hands up, we find a solution.

5. Laser Focus – We only keep to the problem and the mission.

6. One Destination, Autonomously – While we work loosely together, we all have the same mission and we are all in it together.

I bet you all the money in the word Nikolay Storonsky—the CEO of Revolut—doesn’t actually understand that a CEO’s job is to create the environment to find, motivate and retain people who are focused on the problem the company is solving, believe in the company’s mission, and are a fit for the company’s culture. IMHO venture success is the result of building an organisation that does this.

I wish Revolut all the luck in the world but the fish rots from the head!

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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Do you think I'm a walking charity? That's what an employment contract is for. If you want me to work on weekends, put that in the contract. I can then negotiate an appropriate wage. If it's not in the contract, get lost. Alternatively propose a new contract so we can re-negotiate my compensation. If we negotiated for 160 hours of my time / month, then that's what you're getting. And if you can't wrap your head aroun…

I employ 105 people in five countries. 30 in the UK. Feel free to renegotiate your contract when asked to work long hours whilst I contact my recruiter to replace you.

Well f me. I've now just to mentally add another 30 to my mental tally of "the collective suffering of mankind"

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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I hate the idea of working on weekends... This guy was only talking about people significantly behind on their projects, for what it is worth. Of course they can be behind because they are wasting time or because the project requires too many man hours.

How do you know the deadlines were reasonable? One of the reasons I quit my last job was because of unreasonable revenue targets from shareholders and the need to push my team beyond what I thought was reasonable due to these pressures. This included some ridiculous deadlines.

you might want to read to the end of my comment

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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I am very pro work life balance and think anything over 35-40 hours per week will just lead to eventual burnout and reduced performance. Having said that, I can't bring myself to be too bothered about this tweet. At least the expectation is clear: hit your KPI goal or else. If you were to find yourself behind, you could either work harder, lobby to change the goal, lobby for more resources, pivot your strategy, or st…

Plans rarely survive contact with reality. Target KPIs are just that. They are a planning-estimating-organizing tool.

And KPIs are actually benchmark indicators [hence the name], not explicit targets. Sure, you can try to make goals, even have certain contractual rights or obligations pegged to them, and CEOs can even communicate these to employees, but demanding to meet those goals, to place these goals above personal well-being is a very short sighted strategy.

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or not, but asking people to work on weekends means crossing the line, whether it's expressed in a direct or indirect way.

What if during the interviewing process they're very clear that they are a startup that isn't a normal job and the trade off is equity and a great cheque in 2-5 years?

It depends: if they tried to pull this off in Europe, they would face trouble as it's illegal to exploit people whether they agree to it or not.

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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Never ceases to amaze me how friggin lazy and entitled are the British when it comes to being told they need to work long hours. It’s a high growth startup. They are vesting you with stock. Hell yes you need to come in on weekends, bruv.

You think the people this slack message was aimed at are getting stock? Sorry but that's not the case at all.

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think I'm a walking charity? That's what an employment contract is for. If you want me to work on weekends, put that in the contract. I can then negotiate an appropriate wage. If it's not in the contract, get lost. Alternatively propose a new contract so we can re-negotiate my compensation. If we negotiated for 160 hours of my time / month, then that's what you're getting. And if you can't wrap your head aroun…

I employ 105 people in five countries. 30 in the UK. Feel free to renegotiate your contract when asked to work long hours whilst I contact my recruiter to replace you.

uh... I know this one!

"What is the definition of 'Toxic Employer', Alex?"

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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People aren't robots they need breaks, vacations, time to decompress, time off when sick.

>People aren't robots they need breaks, vacations, time to decompress, time off when sick. It's worth remembering that the only reason employees get these concessions is because unions and governments forced companies to do so under threat of (sometimes direct) violence, and that part of the "disruptive" philosophy of modern startup culture is an attempt to undermine and roll back these gains in labor rights under th…

I think that's a biased take. Ultimately you can't have concessions without enough economy to support it in the first place, so it cuts both ways. There's plenty of glamor stories about certain startup's having shitty work cultures, but in general a startup is a riskier place to work in the first place. That having a shitty work culture would attract employee's from safer, (culturally) better jobs seems unlikely (and contradicts my personal experience, at least).

Re: The CEO of RevolutApp on Slack: “Why Aren’t You Working on Weekends?”

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If you have only ever worked a 9 - 5 work week this may come as a surprise, but in the real world in America, lots of highly paid people routinely work weekends and nights and 12 or even 24 hour shifts. Doctors, Police Officers, Morticians, Firefighters, etc. They use schedules to spread the work and many only get one weekend off a month of totally free time.

> Doctors, Police Officers, Morticians, Firefighters Hold on. A firefighter is on call in the in the firehouse during their shift. The aren't (except in emergencies) working straight 24 hour shifts. I see them at the grocery store a lot during the day. How many teams of software developers are gaming, shopping and sleeping during their shifts? most patrol officers work 5 consecutive 8-hour shifts followed by two days…

Moreover Doctor's hours are controlled by doctor's themselves. If the mass of physicians would prefer lower salaries and better hours, they could and would achieve that.
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