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A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#91
From Techcrunch:

If we let anonymous mobs have this much power, the world — the real, flesh-and-blood human one, not the virtual one of Tweets, blog posts, comments and LiveJournal feeds– is going to get worse, not better.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/16/congrats-self-righteous-int...

Already happened!

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#93
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"Instead of picking up one of the multitude of books sent to me and typing it, I got lazy and went to the www and "found" something." In school, that's called plagiarism, and you get thrown out for it... Why should it be so different in the real world?

Who says she hasn't already been 'thrown out' of the real world? Her ideas certainly don't match up with reality.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#94

She's effectively written a long-winded excuse in the guide of an apology while making thinly-veiled attempts to blame the original author for her ensuing misfortune. At the same time she deftly manages to not mention the numerous other counts of plagiarism that were discovered. I'm sure she feels extremely sorry for herself right now but for all intents and purposes she is simply a thief.

She's not a thief, but she is a fraud. (i.e. copyright violate != theft)

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#95
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Hopefully she'll have learned a bit about how to interact with people on the Internet by the time she starts her next venture (if this one is going down the tubes as a result of her previous actions). Sadly that response tells me she's learned nothing from all of this and can't see beyond her own bloodied nose.

It is indeed going down the 'tubes' http://www.gazettenet.com/2010/11/16/cooks-source-calls-it-q...

There's a part where some of the quotes from the apology letter are implied to have been given to the Gazette in a phone interview. (not necessarily intentional)

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#96
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't agree more that this editor's fate is deserved and that this is an "apology" only in the traditional meaning of that word (an attempted defense and not a mea culpa ), and a poor one at that. I also have been critical of her unbelievably tone-deaf approach to the subject of handling the complaint of an innocent person whom she had wronged (see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1870300 ). Yet, at some leve…

Good point, I agree. It reminds me of fixed mindset people, which Ron Burk describes in this 5-minute Ignite presentation, The Psychology of Incompetence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vcy7I0zIM * Over-estimate their own abilities * Hide, minimize, and blame away failures * Solutions shouldn't require hard work (effort is for less talented folks) * Avoid seeking help/training * Are easily frustrated by setbacks

Ouch! Now imagine living in a country where at least 50% of people (and about 80% in business management) have that mindset... :/

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#97
While I have no sympathy for this woman, something in her story does concern me.

  "we have had so much hate email (over 400 pieces) , phone calls and regular mail."
She violated some copyright. That is an issue between her and the copyright holder. I feel slightly ashamed to be part of a community (Not HN specifically, but the more global software community) that responds with hate mail and abuse.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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She also could have taken the negative and turned it around. If a restaurant gets closed for violating health codes (which is not usually permanent, from my understanding), that's a perfect time to put big glass windows on the kitchen, issue a sincere mea culpa , and say "look guys, we learned our lesson and are the cleanest restaurant in town now!". It worked for Jack in the Box after the e. coli scare. While this o…

This is especially insightful. To the talented marketer, there is no such thing as bad press. Being thrust into the limelight to be mocked and laughed at is a really great opportunity to take one on the chin and own up to your mistakes, and then to turn that around into positive press about how you screwed up and how you're fixing it moving forward. Cook's Source has visibility easily several orders of magnitude grea…

"If you get caught with your pants down, join the chorus laughing at your embarrassment and use it as an opportunity to market your underwear."

Brilliant line. I might just quote that at some point.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

#100

From Techcrunch: If we let anonymous mobs have this much power, the world — the real, flesh-and-blood human one, not the virtual one of Tweets, blog posts, comments and LiveJournal feeds– is going to get worse, not better. http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/16/congrats-self-righteous-int... Already happened!

I imagine the Iranian government might express similar sentiments about anonymous internet mobs. The power they wield might be used to all sorts of ends, some of which we might admire, and some which we might find distasteful. Would a world where we forbid the anonymous mobs from having that much power be so much better?
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