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Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by m_krzem »

polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

I was researching this recently (why, I'll say in a sec), found a couple of interesting clack channels of sites people mentioned here: producthq, women in product, product coalition, product school, etc..

A lot of discussions are unstructured or hard to keep track of. I mean, it's slack, not a forum.

What I'm helping create with the wonderful team at JAM London is a curated collection of 'Hot Tips' with short practical and no-nonsense answers form PMs for PMs. It's picking up interest, looks like your question hit the nail on the head! :D https://www.jamlondon.io/tips/

Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by m_krzem »

rchaud wrote: post #50
polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

The challenge in building such a community is that PM is a highly sought after job in the tech sector, so any forum or website built around PM discussion is inevitably going to turn into something like Medium, which today is a list of poorly written thought pieces by (mostly) amateurs.

That's an interesting point. I'd be really interested in some advice on how to prevent it. Currently with our project Hot Tips form PMs for PMs https://www.jamlondon.io/tips/ we do manual curation (people submit text, or I reach out to specific experts) and then it goes through approval/editing process. It'd be cool to be able to automate it though.

Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by m_krzem »

bryanmccarty wrote: post #90
polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

It's already been mentioned by a few others, but just calling out Roadmap.com again. I actually help manage the community. So, if you have any feedback or things you'd like to see improved, send it my way. I'm always trying to make the site more functional and encourage meaningful conversations. Also, as a side note, we put up a monthly jobs thread on the 1st of each month (and it's pinned as the first question on th…

Wow, how have I never come across this site. What's your current strategy to encourage more meaningful conversations? I see in some threads you yourself add the first answer, I imagine to set the tone which I think is a good strategy.

What's the current main problem? Not enough answers, or lack of "quality" answers? How do you quantify/measure quality interaction?

Sorry for this inquisitive interview, it's just a very interesting topic. I'd like to automate my own processes, and haven't spoken to anyone managing a reddit-style forum before (apart form one guy who is creating one, but that's a dev more than a community person ^_^)

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Post by m_krzem »

NearAP wrote: post #21
carchase wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of sites that have been useful to me, in no particular order (not affiliated w/ any): - productmanagerhq.com - productschool.com - mindtheproduct.com - roadmap.com - departmentofproduct.com

Another resource - https://www.forproductmanagers.com/

This seems not to have been updated since July 2018, do you know what happened there?

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Post by qnsi »

Does anyone want to discuss website find.xyz? I have a hard time finding information on the internet. As they state on their website, if you google something it's SEO game and very often how much the article matches your keywords and not specifically highest quality articles first.

However, I find it hard to find information on find.xyz that interests me. When you click on tech you see a lot of Benedict's tech news (Maybe he is investor?). Maybe the problem is the site seems to be new.

How do you find information online? I tend to find best articles here on hackernews and on twitter, but it is very random. I wish there was a way to find high quality articles on stuff that interests me without googling for hours.

Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by villaumbrosia »

carchase wrote: post #11
polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

A couple of sites that have been useful to me, in no particular order (not affiliated w/ any): - productmanagerhq.com - productschool.com - mindtheproduct.com - roadmap.com - departmentofproduct.com

Thanks for the mention of ProductSchool - we also have a whole bunch of other free resources / communities for PMs at: https://www.productschool.com/free-resources/

Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by clementkao »

adpirz wrote: post #3
polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

My partner is struggling with this very thing at her work, I'm curious: what are go-to resources for PMs in terms of professional development?

Part of the challenge here is that the product manager role itself isn't well-defined.

My favorite analogy here is the one about cancer - cancer isn't one disease, it's thousands of diseases that all look the same on the surface, but are really different when you dive in. A cure for skin cancer doesn't really help get you closer to a cure for lung cancer, as an example.

Specifically for your partner - what kind of product management is she doing? B2B or B2C? Customer-facing products or internal products? Web or mobile?

The more specificity you have, the more likely you'll be able to find more relevant professional development resources for her particular flavor of product management.

That being said - once a PM hits a particular threshold of experience and self-awareness, they can generally come up with their own professional development track, though it always helps to have a mentor.

Re: Product-building articles by PMs at major tech companies

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Post by clementkao »

polote wrote: post #2

There is clearly a lack of boards/forums/websites dedicated to product managers. But what I miss the more is a website, when we can get valuable insights about best practices. On HN you can get super useful information about any stack/language/framework by reading the comments, but when you are a PM you have nowhere to get that kind of information

(Disclaimer - I'm a writer at Product Manager HQ, so my perspective is biased!)

I've seen that boards/forums and websites/blogs are distinct categories of resources.

I haven't found a board/forum that really helped me to grow as a product manager yet. My hypothesis is that because there are so many different kinds of product managers, it's difficult to hit any kind of critical mass of invested users who can all answer each other's questions. Even a forum with thousands of PM's may not succeed, because there are so many kinds of product managers (B2B vs B2C, web vs mobile, API vs UI, internal vs external, etc.)

That said, there are Slack communities that are a bit more lively than boards/forums, but even then the user ratios are usually heavily skewed towards newer PMs rather than more tenured PMs.

I strongly believe there are great websites/blogs, however. Two of my favorites (again, bias warning):

1) Product Manager HQ (https://www.productmanagerhq.com/) - generally relevant content for aspiring PMs, new PMs, and experienced PMs. Not as much content for Heads of Product, unfortunately.

2) Black Box of Product Management (https://blackboxofpm.com/) - solid resource for directors of product and higher.

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