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Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Not sure what your definition of gray market is, but there wont be any warranties usually...

He's saying warranties are mostly useless on watches.

Precisely.

A decent new watch isn't going to have a defect. The parent referred to a theoretical $500 watch. Let's take something like a Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic. Decent watch, very handsome, and usually comes in around $500 (or less).

Hamilton is a Swatch Group company and gets the very, very popular ETA 2824-2 movement. This is the same movement that can be found in watches costing thousands and some times tens of thousands.

The quality and the internal components are the same. More expensive watches sometimes get nicer finishes on the movement and occasionally get a COSC certification, but by and large, there's little difference.

ETA has been making the 2824 since 1961. It is the workhorse of the watch industry. I've literally never heard of a defective one that wasn't a clone.

So, I'll personally guarantee that your $500 ETA 2824 will run for five years without defects at which point it'll probably need servicing, i.e. cleaning and re-lubrication. That's going to cost $200-300 from any Swatch Group authorized service center regardless of whether the watch has a warranty or is grey market.

Anything much cheaper than $500 is either going to be a Miyota or Hattori movement or a clone of a Swiss movement. I'd consider those watches to have a finite life span of a few years. Likely they'll not be worth servicing when the time comes, though there are definitely exceptions.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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"i could have done that" "but you didnt"

Why would I manually do the pieces of a clockwork? It's been done manually countless times. Maybe If I would be in metallurgic industry it would make sense to do it as an exercise.

"i could have done that"

"but you didnt"

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

My recent employment upgrade has been nice and I am in the market for a good watch as a result (no longer a junior so I can wear something nicer now). That said, I'm looking for something that is more useful than anything. I mean, heck, if I'm going to drop this much on what is essentially jewelry, I might as well get all the use out if it that I can. Can you point me to any good communities that may be of assistance? I've tried r/watches before, but reddit's search algo is just terrible.

Specifically, I'm looking for:

- Waterproof up to ~30m, more is fine.

- Complications of: Chronograph, Date, Tachymeter, Moon Phases (I surf when I have the time, so it's nice to know the tides and to wear the watch while surfing).

- Sapphire/hardened glass for scratch resistance.

- Bezel, as they are really cool.

- Quartz is fine, accuracy is really nice, though mechanical is ok.

- Standard 12 hour clock face, things like a Casio F-91W aren't the best ;)

- I'm a fairly large person, so I can withstand a large/bulky face on the arm, if that helps at all.

Thank you for any and all advice or recommendations, I appreciate it.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

My recent employment upgrade has been nice and I am in the market for a good watch as a result (no longer a junior so I can wear something nicer now). That said, I'm looking for something that is more useful than anything. I mean, heck, if I'm going to drop this much on what is essentially jewelry, I might as well get all the use out if it that I can. Can you point me to any good communities that may be of assistance…

If you mean a rotatable (dive) bezel, you’re looking for something very very specific. Also, if you take it surfing, you’d want screw down pushers if the watch is expensive. Even if you find a watch matching these specs, it probably won’t be what you want in terms of quality, looks, fit, or price. You should broaden your search.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's saying warranties are mostly useless on watches.

Precisely. A decent new watch isn't going to have a defect. The parent referred to a theoretical $500 watch. Let's take something like a Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic. Decent watch, very handsome, and usually comes in around $500 (or less). Hamilton is a Swatch Group company and gets the very, very popular ETA 2824-2 movement. This is the same movement that can be found in watches costing thousands and some times te…

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Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

My recent employment upgrade has been nice and I am in the market for a good watch as a result (no longer a junior so I can wear something nicer now). That said, I'm looking for something that is more useful than anything. I mean, heck, if I'm going to drop this much on what is essentially jewelry, I might as well get all the use out if it that I can. Can you point me to any good communities that may be of assistance…

If you want to take it to the water it is usually recommended that the watch has 10bar (100m) water resistance.

The Breitling Navitimer 01 would tick many of your boxes (Chronograph, (Logscale)Bezel, Date) and is an iconic watch. However you can't swim with it.

Another iconic chronograph is the Zenith El Primero with the tri color dial. It is also WR to 100m.

Then there is the Omega Speedmaster "Man on the Moon" Chronograph.

Tudor also has a few nice watches: Black Bay Chrono, Black Bay Heritage, Black Bay 58, Black Bay GMT, Pelagos.

If you want a fine Quartz watch have a look at Grand Seiko and Citizen Chronomaster. These are High Accuracy Quartz (HAQ) watches which means +/- 5-10 seconds a year depending on the model.

For more classic looking watches have a look at Jaeger LeCoultre. I especially like their Masters collection.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My recent employment upgrade has been nice and I am in the market for a good watch as a result (no longer a junior so I can wear something nicer now). That said, I'm looking for something that is more useful than anything. I mean, heck, if I'm going to drop this much on what is essentially jewelry, I might as well get all the use out if it that I can. Can you point me to any good communities that may be of assistance…

If you mean a rotatable (dive) bezel, you’re looking for something very very specific. Also, if you take it surfing, you’d want screw down pushers if the watch is expensive. Even if you find a watch matching these specs, it probably won’t be what you want in terms of quality, looks, fit, or price. You should broaden your search.

Thanks for the tips!

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My recent employment upgrade has been nice and I am in the market for a good watch as a result (no longer a junior so I can wear something nicer now). That said, I'm looking for something that is more useful than anything. I mean, heck, if I'm going to drop this much on what is essentially jewelry, I might as well get all the use out if it that I can. Can you point me to any good communities that may be of assistance…

If you want to take it to the water it is usually recommended that the watch has 10bar (100m) water resistance. The Breitling Navitimer 01 would tick many of your boxes (Chronograph, (Logscale)Bezel, Date) and is an iconic watch. However you can't swim with it. Another iconic chronograph is the Zenith El Primero with the tri color dial. It is also WR to 100m. Then there is the Omega Speedmaster "Man on the Moon" Chro…

Wow! Thanks a ton for the suggestions!

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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For anyone interested in purchasing a mechanical watch, there are plenty of brands making affordable mechanical timepieces today. Hamilton, Seiko, Tissot, Swatch, Orient, and Timex are a few that come to mind for the sub-$1000 category. It's a fun hobby with a nice community of enthusiasts. Some advice: * If possible, wear the watch before buying it. Seeing a watch on your wrist is different from seeing photos of it.…

If you really want a mechanical watch, and you want to have it mean / be worth something, I'd suggest saving up for a Rolex. Mechanical watches have (and this has been said before) the Rolex problem. On the lower end of the scale, a lot of mechanical watches will borrow design cues from Rolex (e.g., most dive watches will share similarities with the Submariner) and will fall far short of the quality of one. On the hi…

One word: Tudor.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker (2017)

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They're still nowhere near as accurate as quartz, even on the high end, and accuracy also varies depending on the orientation of the watch.

I like Seiko's spring drive. It's an ingenious mix of mechanical and electric drive and it's quite accurate. My favourite part is the continuous motion of the seconds hand. They're not very cheap, unfortunately.

Yes, the spring drive is really neat. it was designed at the time when mechanical watches seemed "doomed" to quartz so neat historically as well.

The spring drives are "Grand Seiko", so tend to be 3k+ US.

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