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I'm kind of disappointed you need to charge these. I was hoping the battery could charge itself via energy generated while walking, like those light up shoes children wear. Would that not have been practical?

That sort of charging system as weight and complexity. And it's it fails, the shoe doesn't work.

If a kid's shoes don't light up, they still function as shoes.

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I'm kind of disappointed you need to charge these. I was hoping the battery could charge itself via energy generated while walking, like those light up shoes children wear. Would that not have been practical?

That sort of charging system as weight and complexity. And it's it fails, the shoe doesn't work. If a kid's shoes don't light up, they still function as shoes.

I suppose it all depends on how much weight and complexity. To me, the need to remember to charge my shoes makes the whole thing a nonstarter.

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When I was a kid I expected us to have controlled fusion power plants, hovercraft and Gerald O'Neal space colonies by now. Instead we have soylent, a nightmare corporate-government surveillance dystopia and ... plastic moccasins, and I'm supposed to be impressed.

Maybe instead of hoping that the forces of capitalism alone could make us rich and enrich society, we should've gone into government where we could lay out and fund these large-scale initiatives.

It's happening, though—just slower. Government money has aided the start of electric cars and alternative energy, and a Green New Deal has a chance of building on that.

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There exist plenty of non-snowboard boots with the Boa system. For instance, Boa's running shoe category: https://www.boafit.com/category/run I've had some Boa snowboard boots, and they've been good, but I've transitioned to non-ratcheting/non-metal quicklace systems. I find them somewhat more durable and easier to make fine adjustments to, while being nearly as quick/easy to use.

Hey marsi, Which shoes did you transfer to?

Currently the Burton Driver X. I don't ride park, and like them a lot.

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Many modern snowboard boots have a pretty impressive ratchet system with steel laces that allows me to get a very tight fit easily (no yanking on laces required), with instant push-button release. https://www.burton.com/us/en/p/mens-burton-photon-boa-snowbo... It's unclear to me whether basketball shoes lack this system for good ergonomic/structural reasons or because of marketing/style/tradition.

I'm guessing that basketball shoes are extremely weight sensitive whereas snow board boots are not. Anything that adds weight to an athletic shoe better be adding a bigger advantage than self tying.

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#97

Put it in ski boots... done and done, I’d buy it right away

These (fairly specialized) ski boots have a boa lace system as part of their closure system, which uses a central dial to tighten a continuous metal lace. It's not automated, but it's close.

For what it's worth, though, I didn't find them that much faster to put on than normal three-buckle boots.

https://www.scarpa.net/en/f1.html

Re: Nike’s auto-laced future

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Many modern snowboard boots have a pretty impressive ratchet system with steel laces that allows me to get a very tight fit easily (no yanking on laces required), with instant push-button release. https://www.burton.com/us/en/p/mens-burton-photon-boa-snowbo... It's unclear to me whether basketball shoes lack this system for good ergonomic/structural reasons or because of marketing/style/tradition.

I'm guessing that basketball shoes are extremely weight sensitive whereas snow board boots are not. Anything that adds weight to an athletic shoe better be adding a bigger advantage than self tying.

You could be right, although the Boa mechanism is really very small. The laces are metal (I think) but much thinner.

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60 million in funding for nuclear fusion vs 2 trillion in spending on welfare and entitlements annually Bread and circus rather than progress is the establishments top priority The tragedy is that nearly all of the problems we currently face would already be solved if we just invested in our future. NASA used to get 4.5% of our federal budget invested in it, now it's .3%. We used to invest $3 into research or infrast…

Social Security and Medicare solve problems too though. Even the Pentagon (say half a trillion) solves a problem. None of them do it very efficiently, is the thing.

Social Security is incredibly efficient from an administration cost perspective.

Re: Nike’s auto-laced future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There exist plenty of non-snowboard boots with the Boa system. For instance, Boa's running shoe category: https://www.boafit.com/category/run I've had some Boa snowboard boots, and they've been good, but I've transitioned to non-ratcheting/non-metal quicklace systems. I find them somewhat more durable and easier to make fine adjustments to, while being nearly as quick/easy to use.

easier to make fine adjustments to Experienced the same. Boa is pretty good, but it seems to tighten almost uniformly along the length of the cable. Which is probably ideal if your boot has a perfect fit to your foot, but otherwise becomes a pain in the, eh, foot. I have problems with pressure on the top of my feet and with the boa system it seems there's either too much pressure there or not tight enough around the…

Many of the newer or at least better lacing systems for snowboard boots use separate controls for foot & leg or liner & shell.

Tongue shims on your liners might help. A replacement heat molded liner is another option.

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