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Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#91

I'm looking forward to the day that privacy and convenience are mainstream again(if there were ever). This feature is a right step on that direction.

When was convenience not mainstream, except in the earlier days of the Internet before centralized logins (e.g. Google, Facebook), which are associated with a tradeoff in privacy?

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#92

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It's regional. For a long time (in internet time), Apple Maps were clearly inferior to Google Maps. These days, it's more nuanced. In some geographies they have parity. In a select few, Apple is ahead. For most, though, Google is better. For speed and privacy reasons, I check Apple Maps first. If I don't find what I'm looking for, then I go to Google Maps and follow up by force-quitting Google Maps when I'm done.

where do you think apple maps is better than google? google maps is the only google service i still use on a regular basis because it's clearly better than apple maps for me (california mostly). apple maps is ok for simple use cases like finding a known business, but an ambiguous search on google maps is almost always better, as is their routing. i'd love to find a better mapping service for these more complicated us…

In NorCal, Apple is better in many regards than Google Maps. Better time estimates, better forestry and building designation.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#93

Why hasn't Apple bought DuckDuckGo? I also think the name DuckDuckGo is too long and too cumbersome, they should consider rebranding to something simpler. Branding matters.

In December they acquired the name duck.com, maybe they'll do something with that. Right now it just redirects to duckduckgo.com

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#94

I'm looking forward to the day that privacy and convenience are mainstream again(if there were ever). This feature is a right step on that direction.

They were using an open source map company, not google maps. By that standard, I feel this is probably a privacy regression.

  I'm looking forward to the day when people know what they are talking about.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Not in the US - so realize that not everyone experiences this - but I've never had a mapping software be so terrible as Apple maps, led me completely out of the way and over a toll bridge that I didn't need to go over. Trip was over an hour longer than it needed to be. I'll definitely still be using !maps to get google maps on duckduckgo.

One thing is apple maps hasn't added bike maps for some reason. This is a seriously hindrance in Europe I expect. I'm in Montreal and this keeps me from using apple maps, as I like to assess walking/biking/transit/uber to decide how to get somewhere

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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When DuckDuckGo is set to a dark theme, the map is also in dark mode! To me, that is an incredible valuable feature. Edit: which is a fallback to Mapbox, no Apple Maps feature.

If anyone wants this for Google Maps, try the Dark Reader extension for Chrome. Here is how it looks on my machine: https://i.imgur.com/rpCiJSA.jpg

Not bad, not bad. The colored areas, especially that green would annoy me, though.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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I really wish DDG would build a Google Apps competitor ... as long as gmail dominates email and business email the privacy argument is largely irrelevant because people will spend hours per day logged in and locked in to the Google ecosystem

I think the main motivation for a search company to go and build an email service (or an entire Google Apps competitor) would be the same reason Google did it... to mine user data. So to that end I don't think it really makes sense for DDG to do such a thing.

I think they did it because existing alternatives were terrible

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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+1 - acquisition by a FAANG would be a instant turn-off for someone like me. I value its independence.

Not to mention it would probably be a literal turn-off. Apple would redesign it to require their OS and HW in order to search with, to correspond with Apple lock-in philosophies. Your ability to use it would be turned off.

Probably not, but they just aren't good at services, so I'm sure they would botch it in short order.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Hey spurgu, that's yet to be decided. :) We're investigating some of the self-hosted options or our own log-based metrics (think ElasticSearch + Kibana). We're trying to avoid third-parties, if at all possible.

What would your analytics stack store if you plan to keep no logs other than those that are necessary for debugging?

The analytics I'm referring to would be for our marketing page (and only our marketing page). The logs are for our services themselves.

It may seem like splitting hairs, but I believe it's entirely reasonable to collect useful data on the marketing site vs collecting data via the services our customers pay for (and are used primarily by those who are not our direct customers).

There's also a difference between aggregated data (e.g., number of page hits / avg time spent on page) and PII (e.g., IP addresses, browser fingerprinting).

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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DDG doesn't even -really- have a search engine, they are using Bing's API. So the acquisition wouldn't even make sense.

Wait, really? I thought DuckDuckGo merely implemented APIs ("bangs") to fallback search engine providers in case a user preferred it. Surely DuckDuckGo has implemented their own search engine, crawler and indexer apart from other providers?

> Surely DuckDuckGo has implemented their own search engine, crawler and indexer apart from other providers?

No. They have their own crawler but it's only used for Instant Answers and other widget stuff.

https://duck.co/help/results/sources

> In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Oath (formerly Yahoo) and Bing.

So in other words, all organic search results come from Bing and Oath.

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