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⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

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Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#91
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Where? I have 9.0.570.1 on Windows 7 (32-bit) and I don't see such an option in the about:flags. The only flag relating to tabs I can see is the first one to put the tabs down the side.

The flag is "Confirm to Quite". It might be Mac (v 9.0.572.1) only right now as I don't see it in Linux (v 9.0.570.1).

I'm 99% certain that this is a Mac-only option for now. It might make it's way into the other OS builds, but I don't think it is currently set up for them.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#92
post #62

Huh? I never had that problem and do actually like it that way. Train yourself to use the middle finger for "W" and the ring finger for pressing "Q" and the problem vanishes. It will still happen to you perhaps once per month, but I can live with that.

This is how I do it and exactly as you say, I rarely end up doing the unintended action.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#93

The reason it's not normally a problem is that if you're working on a document and you hit ⌘Q (or ⌘W for that matter) you will be prompted to save your changes. However, this does become a problem in web browsers and file browsers where there are no changes to save. Apparently in the early days of OS X the NEXTSTEP guys wanted to add a ⌘Q shortcut to Finder, which would log you out of OS X. As the story goes, some pe…

I had this issue for a while, and got around it by requiring Firefox to prompt me if I'm closing more than one tab at a time. It's ugly, but it works.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#94

I'm willing to bet the author is either A) not a touch typist or B) Comes from Windows/Linux. It's not the author's fault, of course, but it has been around since 1984 and it's unlikely to change. The 'native' way to type commands on a Mac is using your thumb to press Command and your pinky to press Q, or your ring finger to press W. It feels awfully weird pressing Q with your ring finger. Window/Linux users use the…

I agree with your premise but not your conclusion. I'm a touch-typist - but many touch typists in the computer age end up not always using classical touch typing methods - after all,the traditional typewriter keyboard didn't have an alt or cmd or ctrl key, right?

I use the thumb on left-cmd and a ring finger on either q or w (never thought about it... maybe I use the pinky sometimes) - and I don't recall ever making a mistake, although I suspect that may partially be because I primarily use safari, and it warns me if I try to close multiple tabs or a single tab/window with form data filled out.

And everyone should hopefully be mapping capslock to ctrl.... that just saves all kinds of hassle down the road.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#95
post #22

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Stop using qwerty.

But then C-q C-j is too close to C-q C-x.

There are sane keyboard layouts besides Dvorak.

Just to name two: I heard Colemak is nice, and I also tried learning Neo for a while. (Neo is especially suited for German.) I am using Dvorak at the moment.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#96
post #38

Most browsers warn you if you are about to close multiple tabs.... I guess chrome doesn't? Weird. That would be an implementation problem for chrome - every other OSX application tends to properly warn you if you are about to close multiple context windows with cmd-q. EDIT: Just researching a bit- this seems to be a conflict between the Chromium design goals and the OSX UI guidelines... the Chrome team absolutely ref…

I think that the best approach would be do have a warning as default, except from in "Incognito" mode - that way, people who feel a need to quickly close the browser can use Incognito mode or disable the warning and the rest of us avoid troublesome accidental closing of the browser.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#97
post #71
post #14

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I think the Ctrl+Shift+T shortcut to reopen closed tabs works across sessions too.

That's the one feature that's definitly missing from Safari. (Safari only just now learned to re-open the last tab with Command-Z. All the other tabs you'll have to search for yourself in the recently closed pages-menu.)

History -> Reopen All Windows From Last Session

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#98

The reason it's not normally a problem is that if you're working on a document and you hit ⌘Q (or ⌘W for that matter) you will be prompted to save your changes. However, this does become a problem in web browsers and file browsers where there are no changes to save. Apparently in the early days of OS X the NEXTSTEP guys wanted to add a ⌘Q shortcut to Finder, which would log you out of OS X. As the story goes, some pe…

In System 7, I think it was, it was possible to use ResEdit on the Finder to add a ⌘Q. Useful if you were low on memory. IIRC, if the last application exited, the Finder would restart.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#99
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flag is "Confirm to Quite". It might be Mac (v 9.0.572.1) only right now as I don't see it in Linux (v 9.0.570.1).

I'm 99% certain that this is a Mac-only option for now. It might make it's way into the other OS builds, but I don't think it is currently set up for them.

Might be a v9.0.572.1 only option, and that version seems to have only made its way to Macs as yet. Windows and Linux seem to be at v9.0.570.1 still.

Re: ⌘Q is too damn close to ⌘W

#100
I've never had this happen to me if I recall. Do the people who have a problem with this not keep their hand in "typing position"? It seems really difficult to me, with my left hand in position (which can be assured with the F dot) to hit W with my pinky or Q with my ring finger.
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