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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pjc50 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #62
pmlnr wrote: post #27

Dear corporations, As an european adult, I'm ok with adult and explicit content. Leave art alone.

A good part of their customer base (i.e., the advertisers) are not okay with explicit content, for a variety of reasons. Fear of their brand being associated with sex, puritan principles (their own or those of their customers), or just plain convinced that advertisements don't have the same impact when the content it is served with is arousing. That is to say, the corporations don't care, and will grant you a scant a…

It's interesting to compare this with how much pressure you have to put on advertisers to get them to dissociate from far-right content. Seemingly brands are happy to appear alongside articles demanding that refugees be murdered at sea.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by [deleted] »

laumars wrote: post #31
thaumasiotes wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nudity but not of a sexual nature (like Aphrodite of Milos) Pretty strange to call this "nudity, but not of a sexual nature". She is literally the incarnation of the concept of sex.

The point being that is art, not pornography. Re the people who voted me down, I’m curious if you’ve done so because you consider that statue porn or because you don’t consider it art? Are you able to elaborate please :)

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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pjc50 »

qwertay wrote: post #87
scoot_718 wrote: post #48

They better take down every camera app and internet browser app.

I can picture a future android release scanning the galleries on phones and deleting photos that violate Googles ToS.

I can see this being driven by some combination of moral panic over teen sexting and FOSTA.

Or the creepy version: photo app "oversight" that automatically notifies someone else (parent, abusive controlling partner) if nudity is detected in a camera photo.

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Post by bhouston »

krn wrote: post #69
brian-armstrong wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they'll want to, if they're ad supported. Adblockers don't run on native apps, and in general apps have better access to relevant ad sell info. A lot of ad supported companies are giving up on the web.

I take this as the best explanation why Reddit is pushing its app so hard, even though it has a one of the most visited websites in the world. It's not about user engagement with content. It's about user engagement with ads.

yes, you can not block ads in a native app. And they are so annoying on the reddit mobile app.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by fulafel »

pjc50 wrote: post #85
fulafel wrote: post #83

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Do you have a reference for this block list rumor? Sounds worrying.

Most ISPs use the "Internet Watch Foundation" blacklist. I'm not convinced that there was any real risk of Tumblr being added to it en masse . (I believe there was an incident a few years ago where an image of an Iron Maiden album cover on wikipedia got flagged, though)

I would very be surprised if most eu isps used a secret blacklist (contents not publushed) maintained abroad and legit communities/platforms like tumblr could just be banned out of the blue. Would it even be legal?

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by richrichardsson »

ttoinou wrote: post #71
Fnoord wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also an example of the USA shoving down its morals to the rest of the world. Especially areas where partial nudity is accepted. One of the very first things in life a baby does is searching the nipple (which is darker than the rest of the breast) and sucking on it. Breast are very much part of nature and human life, yet we censor it as if it is something which shouldn't be seen. At the same time, we have no iss…

but let me as European at least apply the norms of my country Why do you want others to adapt to your culture ? Typically an european attitude if you ask me ;)

I would hope this is an ironic statement.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by badpun »

laser wrote: post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures (Christian, Muslim) have/had rules against public nudity? I had, and my (layman) conclusions were that public nudity creates too much sexual tension, and that is bad for stability of society. Hence, societies just function better without public nudity.

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

laser wrote: post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

I believe this to be one of the fundamental questions that will charaterize this new century: How is humankind going to cope with so much of humankind? How to deal with "someone's wrong on the internet"?

There seem to be these possible answers: a) Everyone agrees to one narrative and moral standard. b) Everyone sticks to their little bit of the world and guards it with walls c) Live and let live and do not feed the trolls, cause haters will hate. So be it.

Any one of a) or b) put to extremes wouldn't make a nice world to live in.

It would either come with a global harmonization effort that will feel opressive. (This is what you are feeling in this instance)

Or it would be a world comprised of iron curtains. With whatever harmonization and opression going on within each region.

In any way, c) seems to me the most favorable outcome. But I have no idea how to get there since a) and b) appear to be the popular choices nowadays.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by tokyodude »

josephg wrote: post #90
ttoinou wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but let me as European at least apply the norms of my country Why do you want others to adapt to your culture ? Typically an european attitude if you ask me ;)

I know you write this in jest, but the problem is that when Germans talk purely to other Germans on Facebook, they still have to do so according to American cultural standards. I can stage a protest on the street outside here in Melbourne and the social rules, expectations and conventions that I am subject to are Australian. But there’s no equivalent online - if I organise that protest with other Australians on FB or…

I agree with almost everything you wrote but...

it's easy for me to see almost no connection between viewing violence and people commiting violent behavior. It's much easier for me to see a connection between sexy media and sexual behavior with consequences like teen pregnancy and STDs.

I watch a violent movie yet I don't want to commit violent acts after. I watch a sexy movie and I do start to desire to have sex.

it seems therefore reasonable to argue that violent media has no consequences but sexy media does.

No idea in reality if sexy media has real world consequences.

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