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John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by threeseed »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #43
Despegar wrote: post #30

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I'll take that bet. The iPhone is going to keep printing money for the next 15-20 years at least. Apple is a 40 year old company, and they're still raking in the dough from their original product category.

15-20 years? How are you SURE that smartphones will still be a thing in 20 years? Let alone that Apple will still be the hip premium brand? 20 years is a LONG time. The average lifespan for an S&P 500 company is less than that these days.

Apple is only hip and premium because they make quality products.

And that comes down to the culture and mindset of the company. Which given that they have Apple University and have an executive team which very much encapsulates the “Apple Way” isn’t going to change.

Yes there are plenty of failed companies but very few aggressively defend their culture like Apple does. And culture rot for me is such a big part of failure.

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scarface74 wrote: post #71
threatofrain wrote: post #58

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Did you see how Google Assistant handles the nearest McDonald’s request? Google doesn’t ask you which McDonald’s is the closest one, tap the one you want.

But that’s more of an interface choice than a technical limitation. Siri both understood the question and had the ability to navigate to it. In my case, there were 9 McDonalds within a 10 mile radius. In cases where there was only one location nearby, it took me right to it.

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Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by freyir »

freewizard wrote: post #20

SVP is probably a very important position in corporate AAPL, however, I will feel more excited for Apple if someone like Chris Lattner would join/return as chief AI/ML engineer.

His experience seems to be entirely focused on compilers. He's a talented engineer and leader, and his decision to join Google Brain indicates interest in AI, but wouldn't the chief AI/ML engineer have some demonstrable expertise in that particular field?

Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by threeseed »

m0zg wrote: post #28
geofft wrote: post #24

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Magic is about management. The most talented ICs can't do much unless management supports them in it. (And I say this as an IC.)

Not in research.

Managers decide on the culture, composition and priorities of a team.

They are just as significant as individuals in the team.

Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by scrollaway »

dhruvarora013 wrote: post #73
scrollaway wrote: post #59

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> $30 Google Home puck feels like it's from the future Is it ? Is the $30 puck better than the Home assistant or does it just suck that much more in French than it does in English? (Not being snarky, genuinely asking) It doesn't understand followup commands, the Hue integration is rotten bad, and the commands definitely have to be rigid. Things like "What were my meetings on the 12th of December" aren't understood. A…

Can't you say Hey Google now?

No in French, from what I can tell. (Pronounced the same)

Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by awa »

woolvalley wrote: post #66
freewizard wrote: post #20

SVP is probably a very important position in corporate AAPL, however, I will feel more excited for Apple if someone like Chris Lattner would join/return as chief AI/ML engineer.

Chris latner is probably at google because google pays him better.

I wonder at what point the pay becomes just a number. I am hoping people at Chris’s position are where they are because of the role, organization and the opportunity and not just because of money

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Post by julien_c »

freyir wrote: post #93
freewizard wrote: post #20

SVP is probably a very important position in corporate AAPL, however, I will feel more excited for Apple if someone like Chris Lattner would join/return as chief AI/ML engineer.

His experience seems to be entirely focused on compilers. He's a talented engineer and leader, and his decision to join Google Brain indicates interest in AI, but wouldn't the chief AI/ML engineer have some demonstrable expertise in that particular field?

Jeff Dean didn't have a demonstrable expertise in AI before heading Google AI.

Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by hackermeows »

m0zg wrote: post #16

It's just unbelievable to me that the company sitting on a quarter trillion dollars is unwilling to spend a small fraction of that hoard to hire the best of the best in order to fix the very thing that will kill their cash cow in the next 5 years. I'm on iOS myself (and have been faithful since the first iPhone), but $30 Google Home puck feels like it's from the future. Understands me perfectly, comes up with decent…

From what I've heard it is much harder at Apple to use your user data non-anonymized i.e they focus more on Privacy vs Google, Amazon etc where any team can use your data to do experiments and run A/B tests, ultimately what this means is that the quality of AI will be poorer. Developers of the $30 Google Home puck uses your data without thinking of the privacy consequences (internal bad actor), and hence is way better. This is what I've heard from developers/spokespeople of Apple. Has anyone else heard the same excuse ?

Re: John Giannandrea named to Apple’s executive team

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Post by Dwolb »

smileysteve wrote: post #56
starshadowx2 wrote: post #29

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9 women can't make a baby in a month but 9 women can make 9 babies in 9 months instead of 1 woman making 1 in 9 months. More people can work on more/different things in the same period of time, thereby increasing total work done. (Parallel vs sequential and all that..)

Sure, but then you try to make the children be playmates, and only 3 might work for a while, 1 might be a jerk that hurts the others; and 5 years down the road, you move anyway, so you only have 1 baby. ^ Sticking to the analogy when it comes to integrating into business; competing products, and which one actually maintains adoption. 9 babies in 9 months is basically what Google has done with its messaging apps.

Off topic question: is there a word or phrase for this conversation?

Something to describe arguing about the issue at hand completely through the metaphor and not directly referring to the issue at hand.

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