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Re: They Rejected Us

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This is like It Gets Better, but for fragile software engineers who obviously are talented enough to make 6 figures some place else. I understand rejection can feel personal, especially when so much of your life and identity comes from the work you've put into mastering some field, but this doesn't seem like the healthiest mindset. I'm just leaving college now and don't have much of a perspective yet, but the applica…

Yeah it feels like they want medals for getting rejected at companies that haven't even bothered to give me a callback. We all get rejected from dozens of interviews. That's just life. Did anybody ever think it wasn't like this?

> We all get rejected from dozens of interviews.

Which we know because of what? Sites like this let people know exactly that!

> Did anybody ever think it wasn't like this?

The common narrative is that if you work hard your efforts will be recognized. I don't normally hear "after a lot of people utterly fail to recognize them" unless you're talking about fiction writing.

> it feels like they want medals for getting rejected at companies that haven't even bothered to give me a callback.

I'm not sure why you draw that conclusion. Many of the messages I see are along the lines of "don't give up" and an implied "you can be skilled/capable without them recognizing it". Why do you think this is self-promotional rather than inspirational?

You're right, of course - failing to have ability recognized is very normal. But we tell our young people a very different message, and this site seems to be correcting that a little bit.

Re: They Rejected Us

#93

Seems like a lot of people went on to be hired by twitter after not satisfying some other hiring processes. What if this just means that twitter hires second rate people? Also, I wouldn’t have hired the guy who doesn’t use semicolons in his JavaScript, either.

"Also, I wouldn’t have hired the guy who doesn’t use semicolons in his JavaScript, either." This seems very similar to the c++ issue with single statement ifs. https://flaviocopes.com/javascript-automatic-semicolon-inser...

This is one of the interview questions they ask JS developers ... and it's idiotic. No-one in industry uses pure JS anymore. Literally everyone uses ES6 with eslint which will (with default rules) fail the build if you use such ambiguity.

Re: They Rejected Us

#94

Max Howell's story really surprises me. You would figure that someone would've internally fast tracked a developer like him.

He wrote a bit more about it on Quora [1]. He still feels he should have been hired, but I think the Quora answer makes it pretty clear that he's not what Google is looking for in software engineers.

[1] https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejectin...

Re: They Rejected Us

#95
I don't understand what this page does, it shows normal examples for everyday life. There aren't even enough details to judge whether company A made a mistake not hiring a person now working for company B. Maybe the match was just poor. Everybody gets rejected, you probably rejected a lot of people and stuff yourself (if you didn't you should try it sometimes), who cares, get over it.

Re: They Rejected Us

#96
post #38

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Who has time for that if you have a full time job? Do you spend all your vacation in interviewing?

Your first job is your job, your second job is working on OSS on github to make yourself look good, and your third job is interviewing :^)

sounds pretty sad imo

Re: They Rejected Us

#97

I like rejection. Well, maybe 'like' is the wrong word, but I appreciate the results it brings to my life. I deeply believe that a healthy working environment only comes when both the employer and the employee are right for each other. I would rather fight through rejections to find a good home than have string of mediocre roles that aren't quite right.

You'll like it a lot less when you need a way to feed your family (or just yourself), and rejection is all you get. You can't pay your rent and grocery bills with rejection.

Re: They Rejected Us

#98
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who has time for that if you have a full time job? Do you spend all your vacation in interviewing?

Your first job is your job, your second job is working on OSS on github to make yourself look good, and your third job is interviewing :^)

I don't want a second/third job. I want to spend my time off with my family and loved ones.

Re: They Rejected Us

#99
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your first job is your job, your second job is working on OSS on github to make yourself look good, and your third job is interviewing :^)

Most interviews are during my work hours. Do you take a day off for each?

You have 2 choices. You can do it discretely; after work hours, no the may not contact my employer. Or, you can do it openly; multi-hour lunch breaks, lots of personal time off, and your LinkedIn profile is super active.

The latter will either get you a salary increase or you'll be shown the door. Ask me how I know.

Re: They Rejected Us

#100
post #9

>Rejected by Valve Software for a Software Engineer position because i was young. (when i was 19) Really? I wonder what the culture is like at Valve

My initial reaction is to assume that they were rejected because of a lack of experience, which is unfortunate but understandable. They may have mentally attributed it to only their age, but it's very easy to assume your own suspicions after getting a reason-free boilerplate rejection.

That being said, I would love to see the rejection letter.

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