If you run against the paywall, use one of the links posted on Twitter. Twitter seems to be a referrer that gets through the paywall.
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China ‘Is the Only One in the Race’ to Make Electric Buses, Taxis and Trucks
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#92Just came back from Shenzen, seemed like most of the taxis were electric. You can tell because they're blue vs the red gas taxis. Another ingenious thing they do is there's an added fee to ride red taxis, so people avoid them like they're plague-ridden when they have other options. I thought that was a brilliant use of taxing externalities, you let customers decide whether paying the fee is worth it.
That type of taxation of externalities is really a no-brainer in the West too, but there’s just not democratic majority for implementing it. A tragedy. Tragedy of the commons, really, on a spectacular scale. A general CO2 tax wouldn’t be hard to implement if we were a dictatorship.
A general CO2 tax wouldn’t be hard to implement if we were a dictatorship.
It's ideas like this why Americans are heavily armed. Nobody can explain how a "co2 tax" would actually do good, yet you implicitly advocate killing people to enact it.
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They are used in Europe as well, for example Liverpool has a fleet of BYD electrical buses https://www.masstransitmag.com/home/press-release/12371883/b... And they don't look that bad. > ugly plastic toys You were thinking of Teslas, perhaps? ducks
We had an electric bus in my city for testing purposes made by Yutong (another Chinese company), and it really looked like plastic: https://www.ville-rail-transports.com/wp-content/uploads/Cap... I have no idea why it was not retained for further tests, and I never tried it.
Who cares if it looks like plastic? Or is plastic?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
That type of taxation of externalities is really a no-brainer in the West too, but there’s just not democratic majority for implementing it. A tragedy. Tragedy of the commons, really, on a spectacular scale. A general CO2 tax wouldn’t be hard to implement if we were a dictatorship.
This. Just see the "Yellow Vests" riots in France because of the tax raise on fuel.
Worth mentioning that while that is indeed how that movement started, its difficult to say that it's about just that nowadays. More a general culture war between cosmopolitan and rural/less fortunate france if I understand correctly
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
That type of taxation of externalities is really a no-brainer in the West too, but there’s just not democratic majority for implementing it. A tragedy. Tragedy of the commons, really, on a spectacular scale. A general CO2 tax wouldn’t be hard to implement if we were a dictatorship.
A general CO2 tax wouldn’t be hard to implement if we were a dictatorship. It's ideas like this why Americans are heavily armed. Nobody can explain how a "co2 tax" would actually do good, yet you implicitly advocate killing people to enact it.
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#96Why don't we bring trolleybuses back? They rock! You don't need polluting batteries in order to run them, just some copper to put the wires up, and we've been master of this "technology" for almost a century now. Also, we should extend or re-introduce the tram network.
Budapest and a lot of parts of Hungary use trams and trolleys a lot, they never went away.
I always thought about them as quirky archaic tech, but you have just changed my view! Cheers
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AFAIK use of hydrogen is inefficient in several ways (creation, storage) and thus there is no reason to expect that hydrogen fuel is the next big thing for cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNV8qi_rJBg IMO the next big things are: - Fuel like ethanol. https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2017/09/18/solar-fuel-system-recy... - Quickly charging batteries that are not affected by dendrites.
From that perspective, there will be a strong need for various rare earth elements. Leading to an insane amount of pollution. Are there any breakthroughs in rare earth extraction & treatment process?
Yes, extraction from "red mud" (a widely available waste product of aluminium extraction): https://kuleuven.sim2.be/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Rodolfo_...
The resulting pollution level is effectively a cost choice.
You've not explained where all this hydrogen is supposed to come from and get transported.
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The article have 76 cookies (48 third-party), and send almost 300 third-party requests that violate the privacy of the readers. https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fw... I think people should be more curious and concerned about the ethical and moral behaviour of these publishers.
This is a good argument for usage of adblockers/privacy tools, or simply not visiting offending sites, or requesting more transparency about the tracking tools, or agitating for stricter privacy laws... I don't this is a good argument for republishing someone else's work without permission. > I think people should be more curious and concerned about the ethical and moral behaviour of these publishers. Can we not do b…
They're republishing a publically accessible document, which is behind "paywall" that isn't actually a wall.
So I'm fine with it. Even if it's technically a copyright violation.
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#99Why don't we bring trolleybuses back? They rock! You don't need polluting batteries in order to run them, just some copper to put the wires up, and we've been master of this "technology" for almost a century now. Also, we should extend or re-introduce the tram network.
They have been and still are in use in most Swiss cities. They have a backup ICE for emergencies, but mostly run on electricity. Works really well, and makes for a rather silent ride.
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This is helpful because the article is behind a paywall, but it makes me curious about the ethical/moral/legal questions that arise from a tool that seemingly copies other site's content verbatim. People might get annoyed with publishers like WJS for putting content behind a paywall, but at least they are trying to find a sustainable model in this post-web world. Putting up a paywall is a pretty gutsy move given the…
> it makes me curious about the ethical/moral/legal questions that arise from a tool that seemingly copies other site's content verbatim As someone who pays for journalism, and appreciates quality journalism over clickbait, this thoroughly pisses me off. Particularly when you have users such as this one who seem to single-mindedly comment with Outline links.
How do you feel about linking to the "you're leaving facebook" redirect page that does the same thing, as far as getting access to the content without paying?