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Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by wasted_intel »

CraneWorm wrote: post #40

I think I'm too into vim to like this now. I miss more "advanced" gestures, like: daw, caw... Not being able to edit a word without positioning caret at the beginning feels limiting.

I know this defeats the purpose of minimal configuration, but you can define those kinds of actions fairly easily by defining keymaps that compose multiple commands[0]. For what you're after, you could do this:

  keymap:
    normal:
      W:
        - "cursor::move_to_start_of_previous_token"
        - "buffer::change_token"
You can view the default keymap right in Amp, too, as well as a list of all of the commands. Happy to entertain a PR that sets that as a default keymap going forward. :)

[0] https://amp.rs/docs/configuration/#multiple-commands

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by fouc »

tbrock wrote: post #47
mario0b1 wrote: post #6

>A modal, keyboard-driven interface inspired by Vim that makes navigating and editing text fast. But what does it do different than vim? Having competition is good, but I don't see any "that's why you should use amp and not vim"-reason. Where is it?

I thought it was pretty clear actually: it works out of the box with no configuration (batteries included). > Amp is complete from the start. As a long time vim user, the more advanced you get the more customized your vimrc and plugins become and you aren’t able to just walk up to vim somewhere else and be efficient (pairing with another vim user becomes impossible). Shared defaults are a powerful thing! Convention o…

Finally.. the irssi of editors.

The popular irc clients (terminal-based) like ircII used to require a lot of configuration and setup to get going. Eventually irssi appeared, with sane out of the box defaults, including a dash of color.

I always thought we needed something similar for text editors.

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

#93

Post by tonypace »

v_lisivka wrote: post #52
ehsankia wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I on the other hand would like to see other non-modal editors. Vim is already the best and most customizable modal editor, but does anyone know a good non-modal editor beyond basic nano?

mcedit (part of mc) in gnome-terminal currently the best non-modal editor, AFAIK, especially when you like to use mc to navigate file system.

What an unfortunate name. All search results are for the Minecraft editor.

It's also fairly obtuse for non-experts. A champion non-modal editor would have a learning curve as shallow as nano but more depth that could reveal itself over time.

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by fouc »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #89
craftyguy wrote: post #87

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> Unlike Vim, Amp doesn't provide split panes, and support isn't planned That's a pretty big missing feature that is included in vanilla vim...

Could make do with tmux panes I suppose, but I agree, if you're going to go head to head with Vim that's a big omission.

Why not just rely on tmux panes?

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by gpm »

z3phyr wrote: post #85
DC-3 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rust programs tend to be more stable, more efficient, and more highly parallelized than equivalents written in other languages by developers of the same quality.

False advertisement is false. Please refrain from such statements as it actually hurts the language more.

I think that that statement is true, the "tend to" and "same quality" are very important qualifiers though.

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by [deleted] »

ehsankia wrote: post #36
patrickmcnamara wrote: post #24

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I do wish there were more modal, terminal-based text editors that weren't so similar to Vim. Kakoune is Vim-like, and now this.

I on the other hand would like to see other non-modal editors. Vim is already the best and most customizable modal editor, but does anyone know a good non-modal editor beyond basic nano?

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Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by kingosticks »

wasted_intel wrote: post #84
phlyingpenguin wrote: post #70

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The plugins you need to make Atom/VSCode great (no experience with modern Sublime) definitely count as configuration in my book, and often come with their own configuration load. If I sit down at a new machine, they won't be there. Most of my .vimrc is a couple of lines per plugin configuring the plugins, for example.

You're going to get a fuzzy file finder, Git integration, syntax highlighting, symbol navigation, and and a package manager immediately available to you in those editors. None of those are available in Vim by default; that's the inspiration for Amp. There are additional perks to including things by default, too. Jump mode is a good example of that: it's integrated with its select mode. You can start a selection and t…

I don't disagree with your approach but I'd just point out, since it's a little ironic, that rust's standard library is a good example of the opposite approach!

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by wasted_intel »

beatgammit wrote: post #86
tbrock wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was pretty clear actually: it works out of the box with no configuration (batteries included). > Amp is complete from the start. As a long time vim user, the more advanced you get the more customized your vimrc and plugins become and you aren’t able to just walk up to vim somewhere else and be efficient (pairing with another vim user becomes impossible). Shared defaults are a powerful thing! Convention o…

I use vim because I don't want the features of a "modern" text editor. My .vimrc is fairly basic at under 100 lines, and I only have a few plugins, which is mostly syntax files and syntastic. I don't use stuff like NerdTree (I used to, but ended up not liking it), and mostly just stick to the features that come with it. As such, I can be very productive without much configuration at all, which is much of the reason I…

I can appreciate that. Amp's keybindings are fairly close to Vim's, so it's not like you lose the muscle memory you've built over the years.

Amp's additional features are really geared towards project-based development, so ubiquity isn't as much of a concern; it's not meant for editing sporadic config files on your server. Vim is still a great fit for that, at least until someone gets Amp adopted into the main Ubuntu server repositories. ;)

Re: Amp – A complete text editor for the terminal

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Post by wasted_intel »

craftyguy wrote: post #87
tbrock wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was pretty clear actually: it works out of the box with no configuration (batteries included). > Amp is complete from the start. As a long time vim user, the more advanced you get the more customized your vimrc and plugins become and you aren’t able to just walk up to vim somewhere else and be efficient (pairing with another vim user becomes impossible). Shared defaults are a powerful thing! Convention o…

> Unlike Vim, Amp doesn't provide split panes, and support isn't planned That's a pretty big missing feature that is included in vanilla vim...

100% deferring to tmux, there. It just adds so many great features, I think it'd be a mistake to re-implement them in Amp. Paired with the fact that Amp is cheap on memory, and has native clipboard integration, this isn't as necessary as you might think; you can still move content between panes! :)
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